Stagnant is not a fair way to describe selling 46.8 million iPhones.
Stagnant does not mean anything in absolute, it describes a relative trend.
I'm amazed at how many people in this comment section have taken issue with such an innocuous word.
While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
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Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stagnant carries a connotation of some dark, oxygen-deprived mire that suffocates fish and smells horrible. It invokes images of death and decay. Not exactly the idea I had in mind when I hear of the sales numbers.
Not exactly the idea I had in mind when I hear of the sales numbers. The global market size for mobile phones is still growing. If Apple's sales aren't growing at least in line with the size of the market then their market share is shrinking. Selling a lot in a stable market is great. Selling a lot in a growing market is ... less great.
What market are you talking about? Apple is only in the premium phone market.
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#43I mean sure 'Stagnant' means that there was no growth, but it also implies that this is a bad thing, which in this case it obviously isn't. Clickbait title.
How high do you think they can go in term of prices? And do you think they will sell many £1000 smartphones in a recession? Stagnant volumes is not an imminent problem but the share price is a forward looking metric.
I’d argue that £1000 phones are less affected by a recession than £400 phones
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#44I mean sure 'Stagnant' means that there was no growth, but it also implies that this is a bad thing, which in this case it obviously isn't. Clickbait title.
What word would you have used instead? "Stagnant" is technically accurate.
I don't have a dog in this fight re: spin, just playing the word game.
"consistent" for a positive spin or "steady" for more neutral. "Flat" is fairly uncharitable but also on the table.
For example, I suspect one's wife would rather know her beauty has been "consistent" over the years, rather than "stagnant", despite technically both meaning "stayed the same".
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#45I mean sure 'Stagnant' means that there was no growth, but it also implies that this is a bad thing, which in this case it obviously isn't. Clickbait title.
Capitalism requires growth (or more generally, increased consumption of products/resources), so stagnation is bad by definition.
Or capitalism is bad for requiring it (externalities be damned)
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not exactly the idea I had in mind when I hear of the sales numbers. The global market size for mobile phones is still growing. If Apple's sales aren't growing at least in line with the size of the market then their market share is shrinking. Selling a lot in a stable market is great. Selling a lot in a growing market is ... less great.
What market are you talking about? Apple is only in the premium phone market.
Apple is only in the premium phone market.
I must have been talking about the premium phone market then, obviously.
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#47The average sales priced for an iPhone increased nearly 30% from $618 to $793. Services now account for 16% of revenue. Apple is gradually shifting from a device maker to an ecosystem company that consumers pay a premium initial fee to enter and pay an additional recurring free to use.
Indeed, they are determined to milk their cash cow dry while they can.
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#48Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#49Given that Samsung just reported a 33% drop in smartphone sales from the same quarter last year, Apple reporting a .4% increase in their smartphone sales vs the same quarter last year sounds pretty good.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/10/31/samsung-re...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13540/apple-announces-q4-fy-2...
Re: While iPhone sales remain stagnant, Apple services hit $10B in revenue
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
What market are you talking about? Apple is only in the premium phone market.
Apple is only in the premium phone market. I must have been talking about the premium phone market then, obviously.
Which premium mobiles are getting growing volume right now then?