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Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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Are you sure? We're already getting stories over here in the West where people are struggling with the results AI gives them when applied to people because the results are basically Wrongthink, and are trying to figure out how to get the AIs to conform better to their ideology and preconceived notions of what the AIs should be outputting. It's not a terribly far trip from there to Deutsche Physik or Lysenkoism, excep…

This has nothing to do with Deutsche Physik but it fits the narrative of some people to associate China with Nazi Germany or any other dystopian regime.

China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1].

In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime?

[1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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I think China will create an AI bubble, currently studying in Beijing and all EE and CS students I know focus all their time at either stats, ML or data mining. While I think China might have a big shot at the AI race, I don't think it's useful to have to only focus on AI because it's hot right now, they may lack progress in other fundamental fields that may lead to more important breakthrough and technological chang…

We’ve been here before with Japan in the 80s, and it led to an extended 2nd AI winter.

China’s efforts are much larger than Japan’s were, and they have a bigger housing bubble to go along with that to boot. It is interesting to see how history repeats itself.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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Few things in the world scare me more than the idea of Xi Jinping with control over semiautonomous flying robocops. Other people worry about climate change. Some religious nutcases worry about paperclip maximizers and basilisks. I worry about Robocop.

I assume that cheap flying drones are the weapons of the future, not just in military but police too. Small drones everywhere of all kinds. The drones would at least be semi-autonomous as having a human behind every single drone sounds expensive at scale.

I sometimes wonder if weaponized self-replicating micro-drones are the great filter. It seems like such an obvious step to take in tech, and one that would probably consistently precede successful interstellar space travel. One wrong use of the tech and they’d run into a variation of grey goo extinction long before reaching another star.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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Few things in the world scare me more than the idea of Xi Jinping with control over semiautonomous flying robocops. Other people worry about climate change. Some religious nutcases worry about paperclip maximizers and basilisks. I worry about Robocop.

Personally i'm more scared of the already existing American bombing kill-droids.

I forgot the HN golden rule, never say anything negative about the USA however true it is.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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I assume that cheap flying drones are the weapons of the future, not just in military but police too. Small drones everywhere of all kinds. The drones would at least be semi-autonomous as having a human behind every single drone sounds expensive at scale.

Luckily drones still have significant limitations on achievable flight time. Some of which are dictated by the laws of physics. So for the foreseeable future there won’t be any bird sized drones chasing you down. Military drones on the other hand are much larger and expensive.

Install (mini)Drone charging station on every mobile cell site, plus Tesla or other electric charging stations(e.g. poles).

Add auto landing .. to charging station with Magsafe-like connector for example.

Add on-the-fly battery swapping feature.

Develop support drone that can carry batteries, fly and attach itself to low battery drone, swap, detach and go back to station.

etc.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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This has nothing to do with Deutsche Physik but it fits the narrative of some people to associate China with Nazi Germany or any other dystopian regime.

China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1]. In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? [1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...

If you propagandize one side like that, of course it looks dystopian.

You could do the same exact thing for pretty much any state, country or bloc.

> In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime?

How about the fact that they lifted 800 million people? Or the fact that they increased literacy rates from 20% before they came in power to nearly 100% today?

Using your logic, everything is always dystopian because you only choose to see the negative.

Every country has positives and negatives. Every single one.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with Deutsche Physik but it fits the narrative of some people to associate China with Nazi Germany or any other dystopian regime.

China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1]. In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? [1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...

They also boil little children during secret ceremonies.

That's the sort of claims you've fallen for, so why not?

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I don't think the VC of hacknews will care. They only care if they can make money from it.

There is lots of money to be made riding the CCP’s hyped priorities, just not by the VCs outside of China. YC has a China branch.

I wonder why we don't see a backlash against companies investing in China like we see against companies taking Saudi money?

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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I think China will create an AI bubble, currently studying in Beijing and all EE and CS students I know focus all their time at either stats, ML or data mining. While I think China might have a big shot at the AI race, I don't think it's useful to have to only focus on AI because it's hot right now, they may lack progress in other fundamental fields that may lead to more important breakthrough and technological chang…

We’ve been here before with Japan in the 80s, and it led to an extended 2nd AI winter. China’s efforts are much larger than Japan’s were, and they have a bigger housing bubble to go along with that to boot. It is interesting to see how history repeats itself.

AI actually makes money now. There will be no more AI winters as it can now support its own development without patronage.

Re: Xi Jinping urges China to use artificial intelligence in race for tech future

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I think China will create an AI bubble, currently studying in Beijing and all EE and CS students I know focus all their time at either stats, ML or data mining. While I think China might have a big shot at the AI race, I don't think it's useful to have to only focus on AI because it's hot right now, they may lack progress in other fundamental fields that may lead to more important breakthrough and technological chang…

AI is general use. This is a good bet.
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