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UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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Also, local to who ? There aren't 56 points in the UK such that everyone has a local point for any reasonable definition of "local".

These are the only 56 libraries left that have not been shut down by the current government.

https://librarytechnology.org/libraries/ukpublic/

> libraries.org includes 4982 public libraries in the United Kingdom

Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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Also, local to who ? There aren't 56 points in the UK such that everyone has a local point for any reasonable definition of "local".

Local as in administered locally and not nationally. Its astounding you didn't infer that.

Aha, thanks.

Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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> Any idea why Apple doesn't allow use of NFC? iOS apps can access NFC capablities on devices with that have appropriate hardware support, but from what I understand the CoreNFC API has some limitations. For example, it doesn't provide a way to read an RFID'c unique ID without using a private API that would disqualify an app from being published on the app store. There's some information about this at [1] and [2]. Co…

You don’t just need the UID (and by the way, passports don’t have one). You need to do a proper cryptographic handshake with the passport, something impossible with the current SDK. You need to be able to send raw “APDUs” (commands) to the smart card/passport.

> you need to be able to send raw “APDUs” (commands) to the smart card/passport.

Is this available via a private API in CoreNFC? Is that what they're asking for?

Edit:

> and by the way, passports don’t have one

Thanks - I didn't know that. Now reading about Pseudo-Unique IDs.

Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t just need the UID (and by the way, passports don’t have one). You need to do a proper cryptographic handshake with the passport, something impossible with the current SDK. You need to be able to send raw “APDUs” (commands) to the smart card/passport.

> you need to be able to send raw “APDUs” (commands) to the smart card/passport. Is this available via a private API in CoreNFC? Is that what they're asking for? Edit: > and by the way, passports don’t have one Thanks - I didn't know that. Now reading about Pseudo-Unique IDs.

Not available as far as I know; I looked into it as I needed it as well.

Seems like there are some classes in the SDK that hint at that but so far they don’t work (presumably they require an entitlement that only Apple can provide).

Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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Relatedly on twitter: https://twitter.com/JakubKrupa/status/1057665110976663552 downthread "The most difficult part of the process - confirmation of ID - was not being done through an automated process: applicants didn't have to use the controversial app to scan their passports. Of those who voluntarily decided to use it 30% FAILED." And as various people have pointed out, unless a deal appears in a really short time…

Oh, so there will not be a transition period for EU citizens in case of a no-deal Brexit?

Re: UK government's battle with Apple over EU citizens app

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post #46
post #29

Relatedly on twitter: https://twitter.com/JakubKrupa/status/1057665110976663552 downthread "The most difficult part of the process - confirmation of ID - was not being done through an automated process: applicants didn't have to use the controversial app to scan their passports. Of those who voluntarily decided to use it 30% FAILED." And as various people have pointed out, unless a deal appears in a really short time…

Oh, so there will not be a transition period for EU citizens in case of a no-deal Brexit?

Nobody knows!

Well, the Minister for Immigration said that "new immigration controls - including employer checks of immigration status - will apply to EU citizens next year" to the Select Committee, but it's routine for ministerial statements to be countermanded the next week, so who knows? It's not as if there are penalties for error or incompetence.

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