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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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All - Seattle, totals, including stock bonuses:

2012-2016 $105k-135k MSFT SDE-SDE2

2016-2017 $190k AMZN

2018 - trying to start up, $250

> Obama Executive Order Protects Employees of Federal Contractors to Discuss Wage and Compensation

Fortunately, both AMZN and MSFT are government contractors

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#42

What kind of work is being performed by those at the 200k level? machine learning or just like react, etc?

Just normal mid-to-senior-level stuff. I know people in that range who work in front end, Python, Java, Clojure -- sometimes just cranking on code all day, but often having some design and collaboration responsibilities.

New grads can get that kind of total comp at Facebook and Google these days. But experience engineers can get that at a lot of larger companies.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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The rates in my field are pretty public.

2008 first “real” .net developer job after being the internal guy at several jobs. -85k Left that in 2010 for an etrm startup(though it was 15 years in business at that time) - 100k plus 1000 options. After an acquisition I got about 1.25 per share and left in 2011. Did odd senior .net dev jobs for a year at ~115k no benefits In 2012 joined etrm consulting start up for 130k. Left at ~140k.

Joined larger consulting company in 2014 for 160k with ~10% bonus.

Left and did indie etrm consulting in 2016 and bill at 140-200 per hour depending on terms. Have consistently been about 85-90% utilized on average. I feel like I am nearing the limit of what a year of working a job can generate. If I want to increase my wealth it would be via equity in a business. That’s the next goal.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#46
Here was my path - first three of the below were during college, then I dropped out before number 4.

1) Unpaid internship (3 months)

2) $10 an hour assistant marketing role (1.5 years)

3) $14 an hour marketing role (1.5 years)

4) $30 an hour marketing role (8 months)

5) $35 an hour marketing role (Much bigger budget, lots of opportunity to learn) (1.5 years)

6) $50 an hour (promotion from the above role, 2 years)

7) Became a consultant for $150-$300 an hour, current since May 2017.

So my path from unpaid to $300k+ per year took like 8 years.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#47

What kind of work is being performed by those at the 200k level? machine learning or just like react, etc?

My friend is making about that as a new grad at a trading company. He writes performant React code for high-speed table rendering. I know another guy making about that much at FB as a new grad. He works on Messenger games.

So in other words it's about how rich your company is, not how good your skillset is.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#48

Nice money at those big American companies. In Australia, you have to become a plumber to get to those levels :-)

The pay rates for tradies in Australia is phenomenal. If I had kids, I'd be encouraging them to become electricians, not software engineers. Even a lot of unskilled jobs pay really well in Australia. I have a friend who works for Aldi in their distribution centre as a general worker, and he's on $35 per hour (only 6 hour shifts though, I think), plus when he's rostered on Sunday he goes up to $70 an hour. Anecdotally…

How much does a cup of coffee go for in Au?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #16

I don’t know if I’m misreading it but did OP include the value of the options or did they just leave them unexercised? Box did IPO, and obviously Yahoo was liquid the entire time. What was the total compensation be like with these numbers?

Box IPOed at $14/share but spiked to $23/share on the first day of trading. Assuming 50K shares (and ignoring the strike price / any upfront cost he might have paid), total additional compensation was ~$700K to $1.150M.

first day of trading makes no difference whatsoever. Employees are usually locked in for about 6 months, by which point the stock will have probably crashed to below IPO levels
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