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Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by utopcell »

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing.

I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal.

This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results.

The underlying question behind all privacy issues is that of trust.

In this particular case, the question is: Would you trust Google, a company that has delivered real value, has helped democratize access to knowledge at a global scale and has everything to lose if it was revealed that they are misusing sensitive information, or would you trust a tiny wrapper-company that claims to not store your personal information but actually uses a Russian search engine for searching ?

If you still went for DDG, what about when they decide to also use Baidu ?

Privacy is all about trust. I _trust_ Google. I do not trust a company that spends enormous time in smearing campaigns.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by AznHisoka »

stephengillie wrote: post #2

> In fact, search advertisers buy search ads by bidding on keywords, not people. It makes intuitive sense, too. If you search for ‘car’, you are more likely to respond to a car ad than something you searched for last week. This keyword-based advertising is our primary business model. The rest of the post is a rant about user tracking.

Has he never heard of retargeting? That model is essentially bidding on people. And I wouldnt be surprised if retargeting will become the most popular form or advertising targeting.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by utopcell »

avip wrote: post #40
utopcell wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quora is not a forum for product placement. The CEO ad was not answering the question.

Quora is a good place for product placement and is commonly used as such. In fact, I believe that’s Quora’s revenue generation model...

Hang on, do you think Quora is being paid to allow such answers, or that they allow them because controversial answers are popular ?

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by AznHisoka »

utopcell wrote: post #41

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing. I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal. This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results. Th…

With so much money raised, they have no excuse to build their own crawlers. Its been done by many companies less known.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by dmurray »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #22

Oh look another anonymous question on Quora about a company, answered by the CEO of said company. And it is answered in such a direct way without any marketing for his service at all. \s These Q&A things on Quora are getting ridiculous. Without all the fluff that thing would condense to one sentence: We make money by context search ads and affiliate commission on !bang searches. The thing that I thought made Google e…

It's an interesting question, evidenced by the discussion here. And who could give a more authoritative answer than the CEO?

Yeah, maybe it could have been a one-liner instead of a marketing blog post, but you can't have everything.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

utopcell wrote: post #41

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing. I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal. This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results. Th…

>I _trust_ Google.

Not smart. It's not an either/or issue. Nobody with a shred of intelligence trusts any corporation.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by yladiz »

utopcell wrote: post #41

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing. I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal. This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results. Th…

Google has misused information in the past. For example, they used to mine emails from Google Apps accounts for data even though they explicitly said they wouldn't, until it was found out and they stopped. I also disagree that I should trust a company that has provided "value" because I have found value in using Facebook since it lets me connect with people and friends that I otherwise wouldn't be able to, but I distrust them because they make money from my data and have, for example, used the number that was supposed to be used for SMS 2FA for advertising.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by SquareWheel »

catacombs wrote: post #10
utopcell wrote: post #5

> "So why do they track it all then? Because Google is not really a search company [..]" What nonsense..

Not nonsense. Google isn't a search company. It's an advertising company.

Google is both an ad company and a search company. They're also an AI company, a hardware company (phones), and a media company (Youtube).

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by Rinzler89 »

utopcell wrote: post #41

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing. I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal. This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results. Th…

> Google, a company that [...] has everything to lose if it was revealed that they are misusing sensitive information. [...] Privacy is all about trust. I _trust_ Google.

Facebook was caught with the cat in the bag regarding users' privacy and what did it lose? Google is too big to lose at this point.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

utopcell wrote: post #41

DuckDuckGo was a thin layer of perl scripts written by a single programmer, a wrapper around Yahoo's Search-as-a-Service (YBoSS.) When Yahoo shut down search and started serving Bing results, a YBoSS derivative was grand-fathered into the deal and DDG continued existing. I would not stake the future of my company on such a deal. This is why I believe DDG is now using Yandex in addition to Bing for serving results. Th…

> Would you trust Google, a company that has delivered real value, has helped democratize access to knowledge at a global scale and has everything to lose if it was revealed that they are misusing sensitive information

This is so generous to Google that it's almost comical. This is like claiming that if a company like Experian had a data breach, they'd lose everything. Except they were responsible for the largest consumer data breach in history, and they're doing just fine.

Google is entrenched, they can misuse data without it affecting their bottom line. No, I do not trust Google.

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