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Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
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Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#42Joyent, the hosting provider, has a history of pulling the rug from under people.
Here's an HN discussion of Joyent ending lifetime hosting accounts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4391669
I also knew someone who was using BingoDisk and was left hanging when it was sold to another company.
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US standard for what is legally free speech is absurdly low. Why should companies hold themselves to it? Why should they force themselves to support organizations that promote the wholesale elimination of other classes of people?
The ‘US Standard’ for free speech is exactly where it should be, and applies to the government’s role in censoring citizen speech. Joyent, as a business has no obligation to support anything outside of their own policies.
The "US Standard" generally means the standard by which the people of the US value the concept of Free Speech, which extends beyond that of the 1st amendment. We the people of the US codified our position on speech in the 1st amendment of our governing document to ensure that our government would never infringe upon our most vital right as free humans.
This however does not in anyway mean we believe others including large corporations should have the right to infringe upon said rights simply because "its a business"
There are many avenues one could seek to hold Joynet and others like them that proclaim to be open to all in their advertisements then reject many they disagree with. First and foremost would be Truth in Advertisement laws, Fraud, and other legal regulations which if they were properly enforced these companies would be clearly violating
No the "US Standard" of Free Speech is not just about government censorship, that is ignorant and naive view of what Free Speech is as a concept. Free Speech is concept where by a person is free to express themselves with out fear of censorship from either government or society at large. Free Speech today is under massive attack not by government in the US (yet) but by society at large.
//Edit for the record. I do not have nor do I plan to sign up for a Gab account (or twitter Gab's competitor) this is not about Gab as a service, I honestly could not care less about Gab it is about the precedent this sets when it comes to cloud and other internet infrastructure
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the "external pressure" in this case?
The usual lynch mobs (which FB & Twitter allow on their platform) reported it en masse I'm guessing. This works well for getting conservatives banned on social media because their report systems are somewhat automated, but it also works for domains and email providers. I think they recently got Gab booted off Azure too.
It's frankly incredible that you decide to use the term "lynch mob" to describe people criticising platforms that are notable exactly for supporting literal lynch mobs and people encouraging actual murderers. Equally baffling is the equating of the criticism of these platforms to criticism of conservatives in general, which seems like something anybody with any respect for conservatives would want to avoid.
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#45I'm not even white, nor do I honestly "admire" white people per se. But it seems perfectly okay to say- "kill all white people" on twitter. Only recently Australian parliament voted against a symbolic motion- "It's okay to be white". And nobody seems to raise a finger. I mean fucking white people ruined Asia, sure. But it had nothing to do with their skin color and it was the ancestors. Somehow gab is the bad guy her…
I find your point to be staggering.
Based on your name alone, are you really suggesting that you could engage online in the systematic advocacy of killing against whites in America, and face no consequences?
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gab is not the online community for white supremacists, that's just an absurd hyperbolic statement. I would downvote you if I could.
Are there others in the >100,000 users range?
You haven't even proven that Gab is a white supremacist site. It's not. That's simply a mudslinging accusation meant to unfairly defame a site, probably because it contains different opinions than your own.
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US standard for what is legally free speech is absurdly low. Why should companies hold themselves to it? Why should they force themselves to support organizations that promote the wholesale elimination of other classes of people?
The ‘US Standard’ for free speech is exactly where it should be, and applies to the government’s role in censoring citizen speech. Joyent, as a business has no obligation to support anything outside of their own policies.
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Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US standard for what is legally free speech is absurdly low. Why should companies hold themselves to it? Why should they force themselves to support organizations that promote the wholesale elimination of other classes of people?
> Why should they force themselves to support organizations that promote the wholesale elimination of other classes of people Straw man arguments like this really lower the quality of discussion.
What part is a strawman? That is literally the conversation that takes place on Gab.
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US standard for what is legally free speech is absurdly low. Why should companies hold themselves to it? Why should they force themselves to support organizations that promote the wholesale elimination of other classes of people?
The ‘US Standard’ for free speech is exactly where it should be, and applies to the government’s role in censoring citizen speech. Joyent, as a business has no obligation to support anything outside of their own policies.
I think they were saying, if money is free speech, and racist slurs are free speech, and anti-semitic conspiracy theories are free speech, then the quality standard for something to be free speech is low, and any mildly sympathetic individual or organization would put their own standard for free speech higher.
Re: Gab.com Booted from Hosting Provider Due to User Account
#50I don't visit Gab, but I will definitely be closing my Joyent account. If you're not a courageous and principled defender of free speech, you should get out of the cloud business.
Being in the cloud business does not have to include being in the cloud business with Nazis.