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Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

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Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh - you must mean a re-branded extension of the Chinese government's spying apparatus? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-huaweis-partne...

vs. AT&T?

AT&T is not a company that's effectively a government arm. They may have a cozy relationship, but it's a major difference. Also, you have some expectation that a company such as AT&T will respect intellectual property. US offers strong protections there.

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#42
post #28

I have AT&T gigabit fiber, and two problems arise getting the theoretical 1000Mbps speeds. First is the AT&T provided router performance is terrible, swap it out. I went with a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. However unless you enable hardware offloading[1], the EdgeRouter maxes out at around 300Mbps. I can't speak to this new router, but typically devices that can truly push 10Gbit/s are very expensive and enterprise. Second…

You should be able to route 10gbps with a whitebox PC containing a recent intel Core CPU (say, 5th gen or later) and a decent NIC such as Intel X540 or similar.

Sure, but that NIC is $274, so not cheap for casual home users.

[1] https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA4A04ZV6491

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#43
post #12

If I did live in Sweden and did have Bahnhof, could I hypothetically use my own router by a SFP+ or other connection to the "handoff interface" or whatever people call it these days?

I'm not 100% sure but I think so. There's a fiber coming into a wall-mounted non-wireless router. I think I could replace it with any fiber-to-ethernet converter and then hook up my wireless router to the ethernet port.

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#44
post #33

Salt[1] in Switzerland has been offering 10Gbps FTTH for half a year. Maybe Bahnhof's router is better, but it's certainly not the first. [1] https://fiber.salt.ch/en/

USI in Minnesota (US) has been doing it for over a year. They launched 2.5gbit and 5gbit options back at the start of 2016. Granted, their coverage map is a tiny fraction of Minneapolis. https://fiber.usinternet.com/ That being said, I think Banhoff was claiming to be the first in Sweden, not worldwide.

The difference is the prices In the US it is $300 per month While in Sweden it is $55 per month

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#46

I have AT&T gigabit fiber, and two problems arise getting the theoretical 1000Mbps speeds. First is the AT&T provided router performance is terrible, swap it out. I went with a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. However unless you enable hardware offloading[1], the EdgeRouter maxes out at around 300Mbps. I can't speak to this new router, but typically devices that can truly push 10Gbit/s are very expensive and enterprise. Second…

I was under the impression a customer cannot replace AT&T routers. Do you mean you use a different router behind the box AT&T provides, or that there are viable replacements for the boxes AT&T provides customers to connect service?

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#47

I have AT&T gigabit fiber, and two problems arise getting the theoretical 1000Mbps speeds. First is the AT&T provided router performance is terrible, swap it out. I went with a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. However unless you enable hardware offloading[1], the EdgeRouter maxes out at around 300Mbps. I can't speak to this new router, but typically devices that can truly push 10Gbit/s are very expensive and enterprise. Second…

I was under the impression a customer cannot replace AT&T routers. Do you mean you use a different router behind the box AT&T provides, or that there are viable replacements for the boxes AT&T provides customers to connect service?

I hope so. My EdgeRouter X is scheduled to come tomorrow. I have a fiber connection box coming in, which outputs RJ45. I am assuming the AT&T router can be replaced as it is just doing DHCP to get my public IP.

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#48
post #12

If I did live in Sweden and did have Bahnhof, could I hypothetically use my own router by a SFP+ or other connection to the "handoff interface" or whatever people call it these days?

Interesting thought. If the "router" in this case uses standardised protocols and authentication (ATM?/PPPoE?) you could likely hook up a computer or PC directly, install OpenBSD (etc) on it and have a proper firewall directly in place. :)

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be able to route 10gbps with a whitebox PC containing a recent intel Core CPU (say, 5th gen or later) and a decent NIC such as Intel X540 or similar.

Sure, but that NIC is $274, so not cheap for casual home users. [1] https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA4A04ZV6491

Mellanox adapters are generally pretty cheap on Ebay:

* https://www.ebay.com/itm/163291199329

* https://www.ebay.com/itm/322683902048

* there are plenty more

Anything from the ConnectX (series 1) model onwards works decently in Linux (CentOS) & FreeBSD.

Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression a customer cannot replace AT&T routers. Do you mean you use a different router behind the box AT&T provides, or that there are viable replacements for the boxes AT&T provides customers to connect service?

I hope so. My EdgeRouter X is scheduled to come tomorrow. I have a fiber connection box coming in, which outputs RJ45. I am assuming the AT&T router can be replaced as it is just doing DHCP to get my public IP.

It probably also does authentication to the upstream network, so it knows who's connecting and can provide usage metrics.

The auth protocols are generally standardised though, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. :)

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