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Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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Evan James has a good writeup on the sort of anxieties around society that sprung up the NPC meme [0]. There's a portion which I think has a kernel of truth, although it is definitely generous to the kind of people that immaturely lashed out and made very low-effort twitter accounts which wound up propagating the meme:

>The far right can be profoundly intuitive creatures, who feel more deeply than cursory glances suggest. The NPC meme is a response to something real, something that snarky liberals, and even leftists, increasingly fail to notice. In short, it is a tragicomic acknowledgment that things are not OK, that we are all NPCs (to one degree or another) because we are all in bondage.

I think the idea that people repeat samey platitudes they hear on TV or read online without much further thought is certainly a legitimate concern. The meme brought up a good point about mass consumer culture, but from there, it attained its own populism: a thousand voices telling a thousand other voices that they're following a script.

As someone who admittedly spends a lot of time on 4chan (an online addiction I have sustained for ten years), I was present to witness its snowballing on the imageboard. What I found interesting then was that the crux of the discussion around the meme focused on the idea that few people have an inner monologue [1].

[0] https://jacobitemag.com/2018/10/02/empty-realm/ [1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/pristine-inner-exper...

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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> Last week, a trolling campaign organized by right-wing internet users spilled over onto Twitter. So Twitter bans a bunch of satire accounts for political reasons and the New York Times applauds the decision. This makes me incredibly sad but I guess it's to be expected. If your political position is so weak that some jokes can damage it, maybe it's time to take a deep inward look. I don't see anyone calling on SNL t…

It's not the jokes and mocking they got the boot for it's spreading intentionally misleading election information like when and how to vote.

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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I confess this campaign is a puzzlement to me. There are a bunch of people all repeating the same idea as a way of critiquing people they believe are... all repeating the same ideas?

Originally yes, that was the joke, people just repeating the same buzzwords and catch phrases in response to anything as game NPCs do.

However as with all the memes over the last few days, it quickly turns from that into 'well those people are reacting exactly how we thought they would, just keep posting it if it triggers them'.

e.g. take Pepe - the only reason it caught on was because the left took the bait and lost their shit over it. The only reason this NPC thing took off was because the same people took the bait and are loosing their shit over it. It doesn't matter what the meme is, what it's about, or what it represents. The right keeps making jokes, the left keeps taking the bait, the right sees that and keeps feeding them more and more.

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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post #5

I confess this campaign is a puzzlement to me. There are a bunch of people all repeating the same idea as a way of critiquing people they believe are... all repeating the same ideas?

Is it really that hard to understand? At its simplest level, the NPC meme is an extension of "I'm a member of [insert outgroup here], look how dumb I sound" trolling.

I guess? It's so self-invalidating that I'm having trouble seeing the point. Do they understand that they're engaging in the exact behavior they're criticizing? If they do and see it as clever irony, it hasn't come across in the bits I've seen. If they don't then it seems a vigorous self-own.

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

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...as someone who is oblivious to these things (only knew it was a "thing" last night)...can someone explain why this is harmful and not just people wasting time?

> These accounts posed as liberal activists and were used to spread — among other things — false information about November’s midterm elections Which violates the Twitter policy against intentionally misleading election content. Pretty straight forward.

So basically satire banned on Twitter, if it comes from the right. These accounts were in no way misleading; one would never confuse them for actual liberal activists.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These accounts posed as liberal activists and were used to spread — among other things — false information about November’s midterm elections Which violates the Twitter policy against intentionally misleading election content. Pretty straight forward.

So basically satire banned on Twitter, if it comes from the right. These accounts were in no way misleading; one would never confuse them for actual liberal activists.

There's plenty of satire left out there. What isn't satire or useful is misleading information about how/when to vote etc.

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

#49

This meme is originally based on the idea that not all people have an inner voice, and the supposition that people without an inner voice may be less likely to introspect and think critically. I think the ban is a little ridiculous and likely has more to do with it's origin on a so called "far right" website than anything else.

But with that said, what isn't 'far right' these days ...

I'm just counting down the days until Bernie is called far right because he's not throwing bricks through Starbucks' windows.

Re: Twitter has barred hundreds of accounts for posing as liberal activists

#50
Banning all those accounts based on a tiny minority of tweets promoting fake election dates seems like totally bs reasoning. If their reasoning for the bans was actually a policy against "dehumanizing speech" as some have said, then why not ban everyone who tries to dehumanize a Trump supporter with an accusation of them being a "Russian bot?" Or what about dehumanizing language against opponents like racist/sexist/Nazi/homophobic/transophobic etc?

Also.. I think this meme has a grain of truth to it - I don't know about the political aspect, but as to people's minds generating the same content and repeating the same phrases over and over: it seems as if our popular media is pretty limited in the things journalists and TV hosts are "allowed" to cover and say. Late night hosts all seem the same. That's one reason I enjoy 4chan, because the content is so diverse.

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