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Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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Re: Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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The fact that it is easy to set up a VPN does make this more competitive but that doesn’t mean you can’t build a business. Think about who your customers will be. Is there an underserved niche that you can reach? It might take a HN reader 10 minutes to set up a VPN but my mom wouldn’t be able to figure it out if you gave her 10 months. My battle plan for assessing whether or not I would pursued this would be the foll…

Adding an example of a niche: Those who wish to crawl Google/Bing/Amazon/Youtube results for SEO analysis around the world. You'd write a wrapper or other positive list of domains allowed through the proxy.

Plan to spend most of your time dealing with captchas and anti-scraping technology

Re: Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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Which isn't legal in many parts of the world, especially if you take any kind of payment for your services.

If you don't collect data you can't give it to the authorities.

But you can still be asked for it, and you can still be required to appear in court over it

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One of my "favorite" evil business models is Hola VPN ( https://hola.org ), a free browser VPN extension. Hola VPN users unknowingly become exit nodes for residential IP address proxies for sale at https://luminati.io .

Thank you for mentioning it. Just removed it. Do you know of any good, non-expensive (VPN?) alternatives? I was using it to access Netflix in other languages for language learning purposes.

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One of my "favorite" evil business models is Hola VPN ( https://hola.org ), a free browser VPN extension. Hola VPN users unknowingly become exit nodes for residential IP address proxies for sale at https://luminati.io .

Thank you for mentioning it. Just removed it. Do you know of any good, non-expensive (VPN?) alternatives? I was using it to access Netflix in other languages for language learning purposes.

The only ones that I know with a good reputation are ipredator.se and Mullvad, though those aren't free.

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Adding an example of a niche: Those who wish to crawl Google/Bing/Amazon/Youtube results for SEO analysis around the world. You'd write a wrapper or other positive list of domains allowed through the proxy.

One very interesting niche that I recently learned about was providing a VPN with a "residential" IP block that could be used to geo-shift netflix viewing: https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/138668/vps-for-us-netf... Apparently there are a lot of people who would like to watch "US Netflix" but cannot do so from their location.

That’s a good idea, but usually Netflix can blacklist domains faster then a VPN provider can acquire new “residential” blocks.

Re: Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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One of my "favorite" evil business models is Hola VPN ( https://hola.org ), a free browser VPN extension. Hola VPN users unknowingly become exit nodes for residential IP address proxies for sale at https://luminati.io .

Thank you for mentioning it. Just removed it. Do you know of any good, non-expensive (VPN?) alternatives? I was using it to access Netflix in other languages for language learning purposes.

If it's (nearly) free, them you're the product

Re: Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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By and large, people are interested in VPNs because they're vulnerable, in some way or another. By becoming a VPN provider, you become a "pinch point" for the connections of a number of vulnerable people. That way, a hypothetical bad actor only needs to compromise one entity (you) in order to gain access those people who rely on you. Aggregating vulnerability makes you a target, and puts your customers at risk - Espe…

I would add, the potential to become a legal target. That is, receiving, fending off and complying with subpoenas and court orders.

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One of my "favorite" evil business models is Hola VPN ( https://hola.org ), a free browser VPN extension. Hola VPN users unknowingly become exit nodes for residential IP address proxies for sale at https://luminati.io .

Thank you for mentioning it. Just removed it. Do you know of any good, non-expensive (VPN?) alternatives? I was using it to access Netflix in other languages for language learning purposes.

https://cryptostorm.is

Re: Ask HN: What is it like to run a VPN as a business?

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One of my "favorite" evil business models is Hola VPN ( https://hola.org ), a free browser VPN extension. Hola VPN users unknowingly become exit nodes for residential IP address proxies for sale at https://luminati.io .

While this is correct and worthy of discussion, technically it doesn't really have anything to do with what the OP is asking. The way Hola/Luminati works is not a good template for understanding the VPN cottage industry more generally.

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