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Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by quickben »

coeroble wrote: post #5
captainmuon wrote: post #3

Bizarre. I've seen something like this already in spring. A colleague lost all their documents, and calmly claimed it was probably "Windows Update". Apparently it is common knowledge in the office that Windows Update sometimes does that. I could never verify nor reproduce it, and chalked it up to "users say the darndest things". Files were simply restored from backup. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there was more to…

They released a new version of LTSB (well, they call it LTSC now) just a few days ago, based on this last version. I made a clean installation today. en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso No Store, no Cortana, no Edge, Windows 7 calculator, no Candy Crush, no bullshit. Don't miss out. ;-)

Apparently the rebrand of Windows as a Service started.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/w...

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by capdeck »

fermienrico wrote: post #34
coeroble wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wanted to avoid giving details, but who cares? Get the ISO from here (it's a magnet link, load it using a BitTorrent client): magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6faec726c7bbb9248b3a3ed8d77bd1a7c4598f05&dn=en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr…

I purchased a full Windows 10 Pro license key and yet I am going to pirate the shit out of Windows. I don't want Microsoft siphoning off data from my PC. I don't want Cortana. I don't want ANY FUCKING THING except for a system that is minimal and it works. Why doesn't Microsoft make a developer friendly version NOT targeted for consumers (aka without all the bloat)!? Edit from the other post: Don’t forget the registr…

Why are you fighting the wind(ows)mills? Linux desktop is in it best shape since its inception. Mint (doesn't siphon), Ubuntu (siphons responsibly) or Manjaro (if you miss rolling updates, but for humans)... Why suffer needlessly?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by satya71 »

wetpaws wrote: post #37
conradfr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the real problem is that the two major desktop OS are currently bad.

Hint: there is 3rd one

There is, but it's worse. Especially since GNOME 3. I know you can use MATE or Cinnamon, but it's not the default on any of the major platforms.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by coeroble »

capdeck wrote: post #43
fermienrico wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I purchased a full Windows 10 Pro license key and yet I am going to pirate the shit out of Windows. I don't want Microsoft siphoning off data from my PC. I don't want Cortana. I don't want ANY FUCKING THING except for a system that is minimal and it works. Why doesn't Microsoft make a developer friendly version NOT targeted for consumers (aka without all the bloat)!? Edit from the other post: Don’t forget the registr…

Why are you fighting the wind(ows)mills? Linux desktop is in it best shape since its inception. Mint (doesn't siphon), Ubuntu (siphons responsibly) or Manjaro (if you miss rolling updates, but for humans)... Why suffer needlessly?

Linux desktop is in its best shape since its inception, and yet a thousand light years away from Windows.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by krapp »

le-mark wrote: post #39

Do businesses even use windows 10? Every company I've been at has been windows 7, only one was windows 8.1 a couple of years ago.

>Every company I've been at has been windows 7, only one was windows 8.1 a couple of years ago.

How many companies are there, and how many companies have you been at?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by tinza123 »

user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

not to defend them, but my experience with that particular issue is normally they put all your old desktop folder / document folder stuff in c:/windows.old

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by newnewpdro »

coeroble wrote: post #23
newnewpdro wrote: post #8

It has never ceased to amaze me the abuse MS customers continue to tolerate. Edit: Not that I'm suggesting Apple is any better. Proprietary software in general tends to exploit its users in various ways, if not initially, eventually.

I don't understand how having a data loss bug means Microsoft is "exploiting their users"

The data loss bug is just another example of the abuse MS users endure.

The majority of the abuse both Apple and MS subject their customers to result from lock-in of various forms however.

My clarification was intended to deter Apple fanboys from upvoting my statement as if it were intended to imply Apple > MS. They're both awful, use and support free/libre software.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by micv »

le-mark wrote: post #39

Do businesses even use windows 10? Every company I've been at has been windows 7, only one was windows 8.1 a couple of years ago.

Windows 7 is pretty close to EOL now. Companies might not have migrated off it yet, but they're going to have basically no choice in short order. I doubt Microsoft are going to suddenly change how they handle updating the OS in the next year or so -- at the end of the day, there's no real competition for the business desktop -- so I expect we all have some fun and games to look forward to.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by kbenson »

r00fus wrote: post #38
Spearchucker wrote: post #26

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And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

I think iOS is better. I only get asked to bypass the OS update every month or so and it takes less than three seconds to bypass. They mover force an update but make you aware you're on an older version.

I was alive and working in the dark ages where the majority of the world did not patch their OS, and we should not be clamoring to go back just because occassionally the the light hurts our eyes.

I'm much happier in a world where only those that put in the effort to research how to block updates and then go through the steps can do so. They are much more likely to encounter info on how they should really think about what they are doing, and whether there are alternatives or partial solutions that achieve most their needs without being as extreme.

Please don't ruin the little bit of herd immunity we've built up.

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