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Study: Artificial sweeteners toxic to digestive gut bacteria

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Re: Study: Artificial sweeteners toxic to digestive gut bacteria

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There are only 12 milligrams of sucralose in a packet of Splenda. So the toxic levels found in mice had the same concentration as an 8 oz. cup of coffee with 16 packets of Splenda.

>an 8 oz. cup of coffee with 16 packets of Splenda. I have literally seen people do such things at Dunkin Donuts. "Yeah can I get a medium coffee with extra cream and 20 sugars." You WUT M8?

At a certain point you have to admit to yourself that you just don't like coffee.

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If someone is sick, they'll become slow. All they'll want to do is lie down some place quiet. Watch kids, healthy kids. After a meal, all they want to do is run, talk, jump - move. Sitting still is the last thing they want to do. My point is perhaps, sedentary behavior is caused by something, a symptom outside the control of those afflicted by it. Here are some culprits we could explore: Schooling: Being trained, for…

Refined oils, fat, and animal protien cause arterial hardening immediately, lasting for several hours. Keep ingesting and you end up with heart disease....arteries filled with plaque restricting blood flow, raspiration, mental function. Ingesting refined sugar and flour causes an insulin spike (make fat out of carbs!) that lasts for hours causing a crash and repeated cravings for...more carbs. This leads to diabetes.…

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Re: Study: Artificial sweeteners toxic to digestive gut bacteria

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone is sick, they'll become slow. All they'll want to do is lie down some place quiet. Watch kids, healthy kids. After a meal, all they want to do is run, talk, jump - move. Sitting still is the last thing they want to do. My point is perhaps, sedentary behavior is caused by something, a symptom outside the control of those afflicted by it. Here are some culprits we could explore: Schooling: Being trained, for…

Refined oils, fat, and animal protien cause arterial hardening immediately, lasting for several hours. Keep ingesting and you end up with heart disease....arteries filled with plaque restricting blood flow, raspiration, mental function. Ingesting refined sugar and flour causes an insulin spike (make fat out of carbs!) that lasts for hours causing a crash and repeated cravings for...more carbs. This leads to diabetes.…

Citation for proof that arterial hardening happens immediately, and that animal protein specifically causes this (vs plant protein)? I've not seen this specific claim before.

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Realizing one 2 tablespoon serving of peanut butter was half a full meal was a wakeup call. It turns out 1/4 or less of a "serving" of most processed things works the same taste-wise and doesn't lead to insatiable hunger later.

Interestingly, peanut butter is near the bottom of the scale for being insulinogenic (the food insulin index). That means it's less likely to be put away as fat according to The Personalized Diet by Drs Segal and Elinav [1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/1478918802

I'll keep this in mind to help reduce the guilt I feel after eating an entire jar with a spoon.

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Some books I've read say increased portions are a symptom of something else. E.g. Inability to feel satisfied.

So, tying it back to artificial sweeteners, there's a fair bit of research to suggest that consuming them causes you to feel more hungry.

The real question is, are they still preferable to sugar anyway given the lower caloric value? My experience is yes.

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#47
Seems like everything has artificial sweeteners nowadays. It's a trend that I noticed only in the last couple of years. And not just fizzy drinks like Sprite or Pepsi - which have sugar and sweetener! - but breakfast cereals, yoghurts, ketchup-like sauces... all have "no added sugar" on the package, you dig a bit deeper and they are full of sweeteners.

Chewing gum and other "healthy sweet" products like that have used sweetener for years, and have always had a warning not to take too much, or it'll give you the shits. Clearly bad for your gut or you wouldn't be getting these side effects. Yet here we are, with sweeteners everywhere and getting more pervasive.

I just try to avoid sugar and sweeteners as much as possible. Seems like half the things I add in "My Fitness Pal" have a little orange warning about something :(

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Interestingly, peanut butter is near the bottom of the scale for being insulinogenic (the food insulin index). That means it's less likely to be put away as fat according to The Personalized Diet by Drs Segal and Elinav [1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/1478918802

Does this factor in the added sugar in most peanut butters? I can't find any without it around here.

Switch to unsweetened, unsalted peanut butter. It's amazing - after 2 weeks I stopped noticing the difference. The amount of sugar in most peanut butter is absurd.

Once you kick the sugar taste, oh wow do you realize its got a much more interesting and involved flavor.

Re: Study: Artificial sweeteners toxic to digestive gut bacteria

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The article doesn't say which sweeteners did they study and this is a very bad style. Fortunately it links to an article on EurekAlert which in its turn links to the actual scientific paper (doi.org/10.3390/molecules23102454). It says aspartame, sucralose, saccharine, neotame, advantame and acesulfame potassium-k (ace-k) (BTW at least saccharine and ace-k are already known to be carcinogenic AFAIK) were tested agains…

FWIW, Erithritol doesn't taste like sugar to me, and tends to give me a headache. I've found that any of those "sugar alcohols" are really unpleasant for me. Not sure if this experience is shared by others, but I thought I would add my anecdote.

Yes, it is known that erythritol doesn't feel great to everybody but my experience with it was awesome - I ended up eating huge amounts of it with a tablespoon (resulting in no no unpleasant sensations) in bare form and baking meringues :-) But I've stopped buying it as it's a little bit expensive and supposedly has little health value, lactulose is a way better (but you can get kind of mild diarrhea if you consume too much of it as it has laxative properties).

Re: Study: Artificial sweeteners toxic to digestive gut bacteria

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post #24

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Interestingly, peanut butter is near the bottom of the scale for being insulinogenic (the food insulin index). That means it's less likely to be put away as fat according to The Personalized Diet by Drs Segal and Elinav [1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/1478918802

Does this factor in the added sugar in most peanut butters? I can't find any without it around here.

It probably does. Colloquially when one says peanut butter, people think of Jiff, which can be best described as a disgusting peanut-flavored spread product. Go with natural peanut butter (i.e. where the only ingredient is peanuts and it must be stirred) and you're all good.
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