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Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Anybody else trying Firefox Focus on iPhone? It seems pretty nice but I haven't used it much yet.

I've used it for a couple months now. It's great, and I can't remember any sites that plain didn't work, though some were pretty ugly. The one thing I miss is tabs, which FFF doesn't seem to have.

I'm glad to hear this. The "about" says it bans loading web fonts- which is good for speed and perhaps privacy but bad for pretty.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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> but Brave browser is great For what platforms?

It's a must-have on Android. Makes the web actually usable on shaky mobile data connections. I tried it on Windows, but I have decent adblockers there, and need JS enabled for too many things to bother fiddling with whitelisting sites.

> It's a must-have on Android.

So, if Brave is free & open-source, is "must-have on Android", why it still not added in F-DRoid repo?

As for me, at this moment FOSS Browser with disabled JavaScript — is better option for Android users.[1]

Fully must-have on Android should be links2[2] throw Termux[3] — this is what I claim right way for get "usable on shaky mobile data connections".

Browsers with enabled JavaScript is much less secure than those without JS enabled.[4]

> "Those browser's vulnerability to those attacks are entirely based on the fact that they execute JavaScript. Thus, if your browser doesn't execute JS, it's immune." © userbinator[5]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)

[1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.baumann.browser

[2] http://links.twibright.com

[3] https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/pull/2317

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16191843

[5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16192006

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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Anybody else trying Firefox Focus on iPhone? It seems pretty nice but I haven't used it much yet.

Firefox Focus has been my go to browser on iOS since the time it launched. The premise is a single tab, which you use and then erase all data from once you're done. As it says, rinse and repeat! If you want multiple tabs, this is not the browser for you (though Firefox iOS could be).

I use Firefox Focus more than any other app, including for browsing and reading through HN comments. It's got a good ad blocker (though not the fastest [1]), but no options to control ad blocking on a per site basis.

The browser has been improving over time. It also includes an extra layer of passcode/biometric protection that can help prevent others from seeing what you've opened in it. The only issue I've noticed is that it sometimes forgets the page you've loaded after sometime (may be because it doesn't save them to the disk, and when iOS removes it from memory, it starts out again as a blank slate).

[1]: https://brooksreview.net/2018/09/safari-content-blocker-eval...

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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I've used it for a couple months now. It's great, and I can't remember any sites that plain didn't work, though some were pretty ugly. The one thing I miss is tabs, which FFF doesn't seem to have.

I'm glad to hear this. The "about" says it bans loading web fonts- which is good for speed and perhaps privacy but bad for pretty.

It has (global) settings for a few things, and blocking web fonts is one of those settings. So you can turn that off and get web fonts to load. Sites don't have to be ugly if you prefer them otherwise.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari.

The only thing that sucks about browsers on iOS is that extensions are not supported by the platform. I'd love to have Firefox extensions work on it, but that seems as unlikely as having another browser/JS engine on the platform.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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And the javascript engine that they provide is 4x slower than the one in Safari. Due to security I think. Maybe it's not like that anymore....anyone know?

This changed in iOS 8. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/new-chrome-for-ios-i...

Indeed. UIWebView, the slower version without the JIT javascript engine, has actually been deprecated in iOS 12.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari. The…

It is unlikely to have another JS engine. But the JS engine is exposed for WKWebViews, where creating a shim layer could work perfectly fine for many extensions.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari. The…

iOS12 Shortcuts are a limited form of extension, they can parse JS from a web page and cause side effects. E.g.

- extract URL and download youtube video to camera roll

- move a running video out of browser into picture-in-picture mode for multitasking

Content (ad) blocking extensions are supported in Safari.

Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone

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On iOS, there can’t really be an alternative to Safari because there is no way to change the default browser system wide. No matter how careful you are, eventually some app somewhere will open an URL, causing Safari to open, but now that it’s not your default browser, all your login state, your favorites and, heck, even just the familiar UI will be missing. No. Until iOS allows setting a default browser, there is no…

I used to use Chrome on iOS but actually switched to Microsoft Edge for my go-to browser. It works perfectly. I rarely click a web link from an outside app so going into Safari on a rare instance isn’t a problem.

My ad blocking app uses a VPN configuration so it works in every single app on my iPhone.

I found it’s actually quite easy to use alternate browsers on iPhone.

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