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Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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One of my favorite episodes, honestly.

It was important, but ultimately so depressing that it turned me off to the series.

I know the feeling. I remember countless instances where I wanted to watch a new episode, but couldn't muster the courage to do so.

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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Rat teaches me to feed her when she tattles her tray. But I won't do it until everything's been eaten, also the boring bits. Then suddenly for weeks no trouble whatsoever - when she rattles her tray, it's empty, everything gone. Until one night, hidden behind a doorpost, I watch her methodically clean out the boring bits and bury them under floor pellets. As soon as the tray is empty - rattle rattle rattle. This was…

How do you know it's deceit? It seems like you could get similar behavior if you filled two trays, one with food and the other with trash, and never provided food unless the trash tray was empty. You're training the rat to empty the tray.

Not quite. She realised I could be tricked, but only if she thorougly covered her traces. I watched the thing. It was so clearly reasoned behavior.

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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This reminds me of the saying "You're never more than 6 feet from a rat" https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20716625

I was sat in my car at a motorway service station late at night recently and the place was overrun with rats. If people knew what was running around under their cars I'm sure they wouldn't have got out of them.

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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Neat article, for those looking to save a click: "Urban areas in the UK cover around 16,000 square kilometres. If we distribute the rats evenly across the urban areas, which is clearly unlikely but necessary for the calculation, each rat has a rather spacious 5,000 square metres to roam around in. Assuming you're standing at a given spot in an urban area you would be at most 164ft (50m) away."

"Assuming you're standing at a given spot in an urban area you would be at most 164ft (50m) away." Not sure how they maintain a population if they remain 100m away from each other

At most not at least

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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AI gun turrets in the sewers.

Off topic, but you really think there arnt automatic turrets, seems very feasible today, especially in a situation like a sewer where you really dont have to worry about shooting the wrong (moving) thing.

We had automatic turrets decades ago, so the "AI" part was just me trying to be funny.

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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Rat teaches me to feed her when she tattles her tray. But I won't do it until everything's been eaten, also the boring bits. Then suddenly for weeks no trouble whatsoever - when she rattles her tray, it's empty, everything gone. Until one night, hidden behind a doorpost, I watch her methodically clean out the boring bits and bury them under floor pellets. As soon as the tray is empty - rattle rattle rattle. This was…

How do you know it's deceit? It seems like you could get similar behavior if you filled two trays, one with food and the other with trash, and never provided food unless the trash tray was empty. You're training the rat to empty the tray.

It didn't just empty the tray. It hid the food. That does imply it took an extra step based on a mental model of the situation.

Re: Pioneering study finds more than 200,000 rats in Barcelona’s sewers

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A bit of context that is perhaps relevant. As some of you know, there is a political conflict between the central government of Spain and the local, pro-independence Catalan government. El País, a newspaper published in Madrid, has quite explicitly taken the central government's side a few times. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this bit of news was singled out for publication because it's about there being potential health and safety issues in the main city of Catalonia.
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