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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #27

If you work in tech at a level high enough, then conferences, white papers, technical reports and so on are part and parcel of the job. All these generally coalesce into 1-2 academic-like papers per year for important journals in your field.

Working for a tech company that does research and at a level that is high enough is no small feat.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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I do this. For me it's fairly easy as I left academia and simply carried on working with former colleagues/acquaintances, in my spare time. My contribution as a %age of the overall workload has dropped, but is still meaningful.

Obvious caveats are:

* In some areas such as CS, you'll want to publish at a conference. If you submit a paper, one named author will have to agree to present it. If that has to be you, you'll have to pay the travel and registration cost for the conference.

* IP / ownership issues are big, particularly if you work for a BigCorp in a field close to that you are publishing in --- these tend to be pretty inflexible on this. I found it difficult, but not impossible at the BigCorp I worked for. I'm in a small consultancy now, and it's a breeze.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

#43
post #38

My SO works in a library but does academic research in her own time. It's difficult to find the time, but writing papers during evenings/weekends and, where possible, presenting them at conferences has resulted in some degree of success e.g. a published book, invitations to participate in editing/reviewing. Getting a full-time academic post is difficult, though, as there is a lot of competition for the few in the fie…

I would recommend an academic career, especially at a minor institution, only to some of my worst enemies. Poor pay, bureaucracy, days and nights grading, boredom. Yes, you might spend your career investigating something you are interested in, but there is also something in variety.

Unfortunately, the library job is much along those lines as well, so a job concentrating on her preferred subject would still be an improvement.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

#44
post #37

I’ve written a few academic papers on my own time after grad school. It wasn’t much harder than writing papers while in school, it just took some nights & weekends time, and I had to work a little to find people willing and capable of reviewing the papers and giving feedback. It cost a bit of personal money to present at a conference whenever a paper was accepted, but it was what I wanted to do so it never bothered m…

I think what seems to be the hardest part is to not only find the time but combat the imposter syndrome of not producing research within an academic context/with supervision. Also, reduced access to scientific databases is a bit of a turndown, we used to get it at uni.

Not all that interested in publishing in academic journals persé.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #41
post #27

If you work in tech at a level high enough, then conferences, white papers, technical reports and so on are part and parcel of the job. All these generally coalesce into 1-2 academic-like papers per year for important journals in your field.

Working for a tech company that does research and at a level that is high enough is no small feat.

Ok but academic writing serves a purpose, it is the consequence of an intellectual effort at a level high enough for peer review and actual progress; you can even do it alone if minded and disciplined enough to bear the stress, maybe starting from conferences in your field to test waters while honing your skills. It is not a given that comes with a degree, though, so a gentle nudge is not enough.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #44
post #37

I’ve written a few academic papers on my own time after grad school. It wasn’t much harder than writing papers while in school, it just took some nights & weekends time, and I had to work a little to find people willing and capable of reviewing the papers and giving feedback. It cost a bit of personal money to present at a conference whenever a paper was accepted, but it was what I wanted to do so it never bothered m…

I think what seems to be the hardest part is to not only find the time but combat the imposter syndrome of not producing research within an academic context/with supervision. Also, reduced access to scientific databases is a bit of a turndown, we used to get it at uni. Not all that interested in publishing in academic journals persé.

Writing scientific papers for decent journals is time-consuming. You need to write your findings in the context of the scientific discipline, previous results, be formal in the context of the discipline, write decently well and, most of all, have novel and interesting results to show.

As for databased or access to journals, luckily there is SciHub.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #40

I don't, but if you are interested in doing this then you should definitely give it a go. Beside actually doing good research in the first place, there should not be major barriers to writing and publishing a paper and I don't think there is the kind of gatekeeping that people think there is. Pick a small conference or workshop to start with, read a few papers from previous years to understand the format, style and c…

There is certainly gate-keeping at decent journals. For instance, not having an affiliation with an institution or a company known to carry out research is not the best presentation you can make.

But reviewers will not know who you are affiliated with until reviewing is done and the paper is accepted.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is certainly gate-keeping at decent journals. For instance, not having an affiliation with an institution or a company known to carry out research is not the best presentation you can make.

But reviewers will not know who you are affiliated with until reviewing is done and the paper is accepted.

Very few journals do double-blind reviews. Maybe some conferences in CS, but in my field (biology) I never reviewed a paper without knowing who the authors were, along with their affiliation.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #36

I study every day on my career, and consider it an academic exercise to read tech blogs on coding, design, server admin, etc... and I sometimes write about these topics to inform my clients. I kill 3 birds with one stone. I learn, I get to dive into topics deep that benefit my mind, and my work (doubly satisfying) and educate my clients. It lowers my stress when my research provides a very real world solution. (These…

I believe "academic writing" usually refers to original research. One notable exception is a survey of recent advances in the field.

Reviews also have to present original results often in the form of novel syntheses, not just she did this, then he did that.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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post #44
post #37

I’ve written a few academic papers on my own time after grad school. It wasn’t much harder than writing papers while in school, it just took some nights & weekends time, and I had to work a little to find people willing and capable of reviewing the papers and giving feedback. It cost a bit of personal money to present at a conference whenever a paper was accepted, but it was what I wanted to do so it never bothered m…

I think what seems to be the hardest part is to not only find the time but combat the imposter syndrome of not producing research within an academic context/with supervision. Also, reduced access to scientific databases is a bit of a turndown, we used to get it at uni. Not all that interested in publishing in academic journals persé.

You are you. You are not the name of the organization where you spend your time. If your research is good, it's good whether or not you did it in an academic setting.

The supervision might actually matter. But you might be able to get some. Pick the best of your former professors. Drop them an email, giving your approach. Ask if they see any red flags. If they say yes, listen.

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