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EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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post #23

"Article 11 is intended to give publishers and newspapers a way to make money when companies like Google link to their stories…” Is there anything stopping a search engine like Google choosing not to link to a newspaper? Surely they can’t be required to link to a newspaper AND then pay that newspaper to do so? The trade-off if Google chose not to link to the newspaper would be a (slightly) less useful search engine,…

Of all those items I'm happy Art 11 is the one most likely to blow up on the face of those pushing for it

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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I'm European but as many don't have a clear idea of how this will work. At my understanding, there will be discussions about the amendments and another vote, like the one we had two months ago. Is it right? There is still time to act, right? Also, is there a place to see who voted what? Elections are close and those choices could impact the vote of many. I knew Votewatch but I don't know if it still doing it, saw som…

I'm getting the impression that many Europeans don't seem to have a grasp on how their laws are passed. Is my impression correct? I'm baffled by the commission, Parliament, individual states, and how they interact to make laws. Is this topic teachable to 3rd graders in Europe?

One could say the same thing about americans and it would probably just as true/false.

Me personally I'm not into that kind of generalisation.

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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So how long will it take people to find a way around this? I mean, I cannot imagine that, for example, the Chans will take this kindly.

> I cannot imagine that, for example, the Chans will take this kindly.

That will be funny

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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post #7

>The legislation approved today still faces a final vote in the European Parliament in January (where it’s possible, though very unlikely, it will be rejected). After that, individual EU member states will still get to choose how to put the directive in law. In other words, each country will be able to interpret the directive as they see fit. It's not totally over yet, both the final vote and the implementation in me…

Individual countries cannot "interpret the directive as they see fit". Transposition has to match the directive, otherwise the whole excercise would be pointless.

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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Anyone in the EU who wants to create a new Internet?

I wish the EU would, so that it stops damaging things for the rest of the planet. Eventually the costs of complying with the EU's decrees will get high enough where it will make more sense for companies to block European traffic than comply.

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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If this directive is voted, it will be interesting to watch the aftermath. Copyright is a legacy concept that is incompatible with digital media. This will make the absurdity of owning an idea and profiting from it virtually forever (at least as a ratio of human life) stand out. I hope it leads to a changes in the mindset/laws regarding IP.

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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UKIP and the Green Party joined forces to prevent Article 13 from getting rammed through without a public discussion. It was a good first step, but here we are, 2 months hence, and it was passed with virtually no amendments to the original text. This is an abhorrent decision by people who have no idea how the internet works. Markus Meechum (aka Count Dankula) was at the hearings, and reported that MEPs voting on the…

Oh no, MEPs refused to talk to an internet troll.

Flow my tears.

Re: EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’

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post #9

This is so sad but kind of expected. EU is run by politicians and the public has very little to no insight. After this goes through I will become a single-issue voter, to leave the EU.

Do you really believe this is something politicians came up with in the first place?

This is another example of the classic lobbies-driven political decision where politicians pass legislations as a favour to their friends in corporate A or corporate B.

Also, if they think this will fix the revenue problems of the majority of newspaper publishers they are certainly wrong, newspaper are not dying because people read news on Google.

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