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Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by gabriel34 »

snarfy wrote: post #19

I was noticing this morning that their "I don't want to see this" feature seems to be stored client side. For a second while the page is loading I'll see an article that immediately poofs away because the client side js reads the setting and hides the article. Every single time this morning that I refreshed the page, I saw a few articles poof away. They really want me to see the tabloid crap I marked as don't want to…

more likely the JS that hides the content or the JSON containing the hide filter are loaded/run/processed after the content

Facebook could be processing this client side instead of serving the content already filtered so you could un-hide content almost instantly. Either that or ease of development.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by beat »

ardy42 wrote: post #30
josefresco wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. There's also an argument to be made, that cookie makers want you to keep eating cookies, just like Facebook wants you to keep "sharing". Facebook has an advantage (living on a device you obsess over), however those cookies you hid on top of your refrigerator ... are they whispering to me?

> A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. That is another way to do it, but it might not fit many people's lifestyles as well intermediate measures like deleting the app. Facebook is a communication channel, just like email and the telephone, and totally deleting your account has definite costs that vary from person to person. I think it's tot…

That's a problem for me, too. I'm in a few bands and otherwise host events, and I'm involved in other performance scenes, so FB events are really important to me. They're the #1 reason I can't give it up completely.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by ryandrake »

beat wrote: post #42
ardy42 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. That is another way to do it, but it might not fit many people's lifestyles as well intermediate measures like deleting the app. Facebook is a communication channel, just like email and the telephone, and totally deleting your account has definite costs that vary from person to person. I think it's tot…

That's a problem for me, too. I'm in a few bands and otherwise host events, and I'm involved in other performance scenes, so FB events are really important to me. They're the #1 reason I can't give it up completely.

Meetup, Evite, probably many more in this space. All you need to invite someone is an E-mail address.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by kaffeemitsahne »

larrik wrote: post #32
josefresco wrote: post #17

"The new survey finds that around one-in-ten Facebook users (9%) have downloaded the personal data about them available on Facebook. But despite their relatively small size as a share of the Facebook population, these users are highly privacy-conscious." 9% of a huge number is... a huge number.

And yet, my wife and I downloaded our personal data from Facebook for reasons very different than privacy (legal evidence stuff), so that's a broad brush.

I and several others I know just downloaded it for fun.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by ryandrake »

ardy42 wrote: post #30
josefresco wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. There's also an argument to be made, that cookie makers want you to keep eating cookies, just like Facebook wants you to keep "sharing". Facebook has an advantage (living on a device you obsess over), however those cookies you hid on top of your refrigerator ... are they whispering to me?

> A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. That is another way to do it, but it might not fit many people's lifestyles as well intermediate measures like deleting the app. Facebook is a communication channel, just like email and the telephone, and totally deleting your account has definite costs that vary from person to person. I think it's tot…

This will go down as one of Facebook’s most brilliant and effective marketing achievements: They’ve instilled this irrational fear in over a billion people that their social lives will suddenly collapse without Facebook. Any time you suggest to someone (who already dislikes FB) to delete their FB account or just stop using it, you get this totally predictable stream of excuses as to why they can’t live without it. There is probably a marketing slide deck at Facebook headquarters somewhere with all these excuses written down as goals and planned. Total genius on their part.

I don’t remember the last time I’ve logged in to Facebook (over 7 years ago?) and I assure you my social life is more robust than ever. If you don’t like Facebook or what it’s turning the world into, the only thing stopping you from quitting is yourself.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by Rjevski »

nradov wrote: post #37
heavenlyhash wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this kind of amusing. I suspect the adoption of this varies by area/country based on how, ahem, well, poorly basic SMS is implemented and priced in that area. For example I notice that when in Germany, Whatsapp adoption is quite high, because SMS rates are absolutely ridiculous. Other countries... less so. I still get SMS (and email, but SMS frankly still pushes more reliably than data based systems) notificat…

SMS will always be more reliable than data service because SMS runs over the GSM signalling side channel.

Which is irrelevant when GSM is going away and additionally Wi-Fi being more and more common.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by qubax »

tomhoward wrote: post #6

I wonder how many people who have "deleted the app" do what my SO does and keep using it daily via their phone's web browser whilst still telling people "Yeah I've totally deleted Facebook from my phone".

Or they moved to instragram. That'll really show zuckerburg what's what.

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by yellow_postit »

aswanson wrote: post #34
EZ-E wrote: post #4

Imagine if Facebook didn't buy Instagram. They must have seen this coming.

Yeah, you have to give it to Mark Z for his prescience on that one.

And a flag to regulators for not blocking or at least more heavily investigating that acquisition

Re: Americans are changing their relationship with Facebook

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Post by daphneokeefe »

ardy42 wrote: post #30
josefresco wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. There's also an argument to be made, that cookie makers want you to keep eating cookies, just like Facebook wants you to keep "sharing". Facebook has an advantage (living on a device you obsess over), however those cookies you hid on top of your refrigerator ... are they whispering to me?

> A practical and effective way to escape those attempts is to delete their software from your devices your account. That is another way to do it, but it might not fit many people's lifestyles as well intermediate measures like deleting the app. Facebook is a communication channel, just like email and the telephone, and totally deleting your account has definite costs that vary from person to person. I think it's tot…

If your friends really want to include you in their event, they will find a way to invite you.

I have a very active social life, and have never been on FB.

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