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I was surprised that they chose Make for the frontend assets, but sticked to SBT for the scala app. Wouldn't it make sens to have everything under one build system, _especially_ because SBT is an absolute pain to work with?

This comment is a subjective personal view. If you like SBT, please say it out loud.

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post #41

I was surprised that they chose Make for the frontend assets, but sticked to SBT for the scala app. Wouldn't it make sens to have everything under one build system, _especially_ because SBT is an absolute pain to work with? This comment is a subjective personal view. If you like SBT, please say it out loud.

Make is a pretty decent way to put all your build commands under one very widely understood format. There are commands in there that run bash scripts, node, etc.

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IANAL, but this seems to collide with their EULA with Commercial Type [1], since third party hosting of the font files is "strictly prohibited" and the font files are in fact all available in the repo, which certainly doesn't sound like "reasonable effort to prevent access/use by unlicensed parties". [1] https://github.com/guardian/frontend/blob/88cfa609c73545085c...

Though I'll not make any judgement towards "prevent access", the main license file[0] does state: > All fonts are the property of Schwartzco, Inc., t/a Commercial Type ( https://commercialtype.com/ ), and may not be reproduced without permission. As a side tangent, it constantly surprises me how deep the creative industries manage to sink their claws into IP and licensing. I don't understand how artistic commissions…

It really depends on what you're paying for. If I buy a piece of proprietary software I buy a licence to use it and I wouldn't expect to own the source code.

So the real question is are you paying for the developers / artists service (ie paying for their time) or are you buying the product itself? That's a discussion that has to happen between the customer and the company selling their services.

For what it's worth, I've used photographers and other creative services before where they only charged one flat fee and you retained copyright ownership on anything produced. I have also worked at web shops where the company retained ownership of the code, however in that instance we also did the hosting, support, etc so we provided the service. Essentially SaaS but before SaaS really took off as a buzzword.

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Having worked in publishing, their effort and the NYT (particularly Bostock) to open up the code to the community is notable and admirable. I’ve tried to push for open source projects at similar business scales to no avail. Deaf ears. It’s a shame that it’s viewed largely as a means to an end. Yet the very same companies used to work with printers to produce innovations. Digital media seems to be viewed much more as…

> Digital media seems to be viewed much more as a commodity [...] in spite of it being the most effective and paradigm-shifting medium Or rather because : digital media is now so easy to produce and distribute, that its intrinsic value has now dropped to zero.

I’m not sure that’s it. I think that might be the perception, but users often speak out about the desire for higher quality content. Particularly content that is more interactive and engaging.

But many media groups see it as a means to an end, like I’ve noted. Throw up WordPress with a CDN for images and host every brand you own on one to five instances and that’s it. They understand those words: WordPress, CMS, CDN, enterprise-grade. They don’t know anything else about them, and don’t care. They, probably out of sincere financial need, prioritize analytics over all else in the tech space.

I think the split off from what you’ve noted is this:

Where they might have paid attention to improvements in colour mixing in print tech, etc, for the effects it would have on published photography they cannot see the benefits to investing in a more refined digital publishing platform or output. Just put a skin on whatever’s free and out there already—then have your engineers spend countless hours just putting out fires and patching holes with proverbial PHP bubblegum. Don’t get me started on data hygiene...

To wit: I’ve always worked outside of those teams looking in. Except for the data side—nightmare-inducing stuff.

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One more reason to support them. Even if you don't always agree with their opinions, it's nice to move away from commercial journalism and keep things as open and transparent as possible.

The Guardian is both commercial and pretty left wing, i prefer a more balanced view of my news.

The Guardian is one of the most balanced news providers out there and you'd be hard pressed to find a more balanced English-speaking organization.

A recent, concrete example of this is all the breathless reporting about Chinese camps containing a "million" Muslims. The story was complete hogwash [1] that was breathlessly hyped by every American news organization. The Guardian provided the most restrained and actually facts-based reporting by far. There are plenty of other cases like this -- see similar examples involving Iraq and Iran.

I could imagine how not being fully committed to the pro-America hegemony might be confused with being left-wing though. It's the sort of thing where the problem is the problem, as they say.

[1] https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-chi...

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post #25

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This is not even close to bretonne crêpes. Either you use buckwheat floor and water, in which case you are making Galettes. Either you use plain white wheat floor, in which case it's crêpes you are doing. Under no circumstances you can put sugar in it, it's only added at the end. And of course, it's missing the most important ingredient: butter. #notevenclose

> Either you use buckwheat floor and water, in which case you are making Galettes. Either you use plain white wheat floor, in which case it's crêpes you are doing. Since we're already being pedantic, I just want to point out that you should never add flooring to crêpes (nor anything you intend to eat for that matter) :p

I feel very stupid but what is "flooring"? Is it just a different spelling of "flour"? I didn't manage to Google it.
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