What clickbait nonsense. Do people really believe this? Are people this naive? He was raised by humans at least to the age of 7. Then he was "abandoned" and he lived by "himself" in heavily populated spain? A few miles from cordoba, madrid and other spanish cities? He wasn't raised by wolves. He lived near wolves. Using this logic, everyone in spain was "raised by wolves". Aren't journalists supposed to be skeptical?…
I especially doubt so much the anecdote about the she-wolf that fed him like Mowgli ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNcBAI6iOn0 ). That's just what people want to hear and is totally in tune with the guy that seeks social acceptance. Not to mention that people are in strong demand with "nature is so cool", and "human are evil" narratives where it totally fits.
A man who was raised by wolves
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#42Janer says the young boy would have projected his social needs on to the animals and imagined relationships with them. “When Pantoja says the fox laughed at him, or that he had to tell off the snake, he gives us a version of the true reality, what he believes happened – or how, at least, he explained the reality to himself,” Janer told me. “Marcos’s mind was desperate for social acceptance,” he told me, “so instead o…
Yeah, I think that Rodríguez absolutely has the right of it here. Animal communication is "simple" in human terms, but is quite rich on its own terms. To anybody who spends quality time with animals in their own comfort zones, it is utterly damned obvious that many animals experience and are entirely competent at communicating love, friendship, curiosity, jealousy, covetousness, and many other thoughts/feelings -- an…
And Solomon inherited David. He said, "O people, we have been taught the language of birds, and we have been given from all things. Indeed, this is evident bounty." And gathered for Solomon were his soldiers of the jinn and men and birds, and they were [marching] in rows. Until, when they came upon the valley of the ants, an ant said, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not." So [Solomon] smiled, amused at her speech, and said, "My Lord, enable me to be grateful for Your favor which You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents and to do righteousness of which You approve. And admit me by Your mercy into [the ranks of] Your righteous servants." nd he took attendance of the birds and said, "Why do I not see the hoopoe - or is he among the absent? I will surely punish him with a severe punishment or slaughter him unless he brings me clear authorization." But the hoopoe stayed not long and said, "I have encompassed [in knowledge] that which you have not encompassed, and I have come to you from Sheba with certain news. Indeed, I found [there] a woman ruling them, and she has been given of all things, and she has a great throne. I found her and her people prostrating to the sun instead of Allah, and Satan has made their deeds pleasing to them and averted them from [His] way, so they are not guided, [And] so they do not prostrate to Allah, who brings forth what is hidden within the heavens and the earth and knows what you conceal and what you declare - Allah - there is no deity except Him, Lord of the Great Throne."
So here is the prophet of God Suleyman whom God taught to understand animals. Yes animals speak. Once a dog told me there's electricity in the wire i was about to test by barking and I knew what he meant beacause i was thinking of the task, because that was the tast at hand, and so i decided to go up there and double check ,and yes i had switched the live wire and the zero wire and was putting a switch on the negative and that didn't turn it off, so he barked, and i listened, how did i know that's what he meant, because i knew. anyway i came back looked at him he didn't bark, and the switch was turned off cutting of the electricity and i didn't burn my fingers. no the dog didn't speak bosnian, that is such a human thing to say. Scientists say ants have ears and other oragans in place for talking and listening but they are deaf and don't talk they talk through chemicals, sure, when i clap my hands all of the little ants run away, and those who were sleeping wake up and go, well some don't care much for it , they're lazy waking up, they probably think fuck you im sleepy kill me, i don't kill them i like them, i try not to kill them they are creatures of Allah, like all other creatures. Going back to the message, the Ant recognizes who Suleyman is, refers to him by name, and therefore saves her people, i mean saves her ants from being stomped on by horses and humans and Suleyman laughs at her words, not laugh like a mean laugh, but a honest one. Later on the bird is clearly in the service of the prophet of God who was also a king, and the bird went and came back and told the prophet there's a queen who and her people pray to the sun instead of God. the bird know's Allah, the bird clearly knew the prophet of Allah , the bird knows Satan, and the bird knows sun, surely the bird knows its a bird. people are retarded, i don't mean jurnalists here, here i mean scientists, most of them. I've seen a deer mom on the side of the road staring at her dead run over by car child, waiting there for a little bit seeing if it will get up or die. It was a sad scene, as i drove by. She knows the concept of death, all animals do, I mean surely she didn't think oh wow what is happening my child got teleported to a different universe, whaaat one second he was there then he wasn't no. She knows sadness, hapyness, her child was killed. This guy in the article said animals don't lie when they speak, but some animals do know how to trick, there's a bird from David Attenborough show called life of birds, she get's impregrated by a male bird then the second male bird comes and waits for her to eject the seed from the first bird then he has sex with ther and impregnates her and he knows the child is his, so this way the female gets two fathers to provide for the child now, and herself, living a lazy life of wealth, and the first male bird also knows it's his child because he didn't see the second dude fucking his wife. This bird knows honesty and it knows trickery, and the difference. birds know God , some don't just like some humans don't, birds know life and death, they know hunger, they know all these concepts, there is no life without communication , they speak. The fact that we don't understand them does't mean they don't. People are stupid. I don't know why humans imagine this emptiness inside animals when they know ants can count, when they send a specific number of ants to get the crumbs, like what tha fuck do they think they do, lick seven ants with chemichals and then they go, but even if they do that withoug speaking, they still know how to count. I mean animals collect wealth, bees collect polen and honey, ants collect food they grow mycelium. When we humans walk the earth speaks to God, may I swollow them, God answers no. Because the earth sees how we are and what we do, and this is beyond our comprehensions, only thing is that i believe it and some of you might not.
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#43What clickbait nonsense. Do people really believe this? Are people this naive? He was raised by humans at least to the age of 7. Then he was "abandoned" and he lived by "himself" in heavily populated spain? A few miles from cordoba, madrid and other spanish cities? He wasn't raised by wolves. He lived near wolves. Using this logic, everyone in spain was "raised by wolves". Aren't journalists supposed to be skeptical?…
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. It's obvious that these claims are lies or at the very least exaggerated. And if they aren't lies, then we should be demanding real evidence. I don't get why people are downvoting me. Of all places, you would think that HN would be where skepticism reigns supreme.
That's not how skepticism works. A cursory search reveals that his case is quite well-attested to since the early 1970s, and the verifiable facts are not in dispute. What happened when he was alone in the wilderness is not verifiable, so "I won't believe it without evidence!" is a hollow and useless bellow. There are many situations in which evidence will never be available -- there were no webcams set up to observe…
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#45I would definitely not say "raised". He lived, and interacted with, humans until he was 7, which is around the age you enter school. At 7, I suspect the average human is far more intellectually advanced than the average grown wolf, so I very much doubt that there was much "raising" going on.
I doubt most modern 7 year olds can forage for food effectively and provide effective shelter for themselve etc. So, he could have learned some extremely valuable skills for living in the wild from interacting with wolves. IMO, a reasonable proxy for being raised by. Personally, I find his story extremely unlikely, but taken at face value it does not seem to be impossible.
Psychologists seemed to agree on the authenticity of his story and there has been similar other cases.
What's maybe the hardest thing is the cold, during the night. Unless he stayed in the warmth of the den, during those times