You know x does the same as wq?
No need to complain vi made it too long :)
Where Vim Came From
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Re: Where Vim Came From
#42From the article:
> ...Emacs could cost hundreds of dollars (this was before GNU Emacs)
Emacs clones (of various levels of compatibility) for unix and other systems could be purchased back around the time this sentence is set, but to be fair, the original Emacs (or EMACS -- the ITS filesystem only had upper case) evolved by RMS et al from Gene Ciccarelli's TECO init file was naturally free. And Bernie Greenbergs Emacs clone for Multics (called emacs because Multics was case sensitive) was also free (and the first one, as far as I remember, to be written in Lisp).
Re: Where Vim Came From
#43>As far as I can gather, Intel HEX files are meant to make binary images less opaque I know this is getting away from the main point of the article, but they're purpose is more to have a standard format that compilers can generate and eprom/device programmers could read without being concerned with the machine's endianness. Pretty much any embedded compiler can produce a .hex file, and pretty much any programmer will…
And designed to use only printable ASCII characters so the file would not get mangled as it was moved around.
Intel hex was one of the original file formats I targeted for gnu bfd (after a.out and coff of course)
Re: Where Vim Came From
#44I still fondly remember lynx it was like the vi version of the web browser. There is an O’Reilly book called “spidering hacks” which goes into some of the advanced stuff. Lynx was the Swiss Army knife which could host, execute, parse, and script web pages in a single command (lynxcgi). It was also decentralized and could run through telnet or raw sockets inside a VMS system. Vi keys and Emac keys were options either of them could be set as the html editor making it seamless.
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#45Fred Fish! That name brings bad memories of the good old Amiga days.
Fred Fish was a great programmer I was quite delighted to work with. We happened to stop by his house on our honeymoon, (although that was because our car broke down in Phoenix, but my wife liked him too). I was sorry when he passed away.
Re: Where Vim Came From
#46I see MS-DOS is mentioned near the bottom, but the part I was most curious about was not. When I got my dad's old Windows 3.1 laptop somewhere around 1999, I discovered DOS and started fiddling with it, eventually discovering the "edlin" editor. Everyone else though it was bizarre and hard to use, but I really liked it because I could look at different parts of a file at the same time. The commands were similar to th…
> Does anyone know if it was another clone or just coincidence? EDLIN was a clone of CP/M ED. Was CP/M ED influenced by Unix ed? I don't know, but I somewhat doubt it. Gary Kildall's primary background was in IBM mainframe and DEC minicomputer systems (in particular VM/CMS and TOPS-10), and so it seems to me more likely that CP/M ED was influenced by DEC or IBM line editors, than by Unix. That said, Unix and IBM main…
CP/M ED is more in the TECO tradition than anything else, through the DEC influence. It is oriented around characters rather than around lines as the ed family is.
Re: Where Vim Came From
#47Since the article is explicitly about vim (over the original vi) by name, `:x` is a shortcut for `:wq`.
Re: Where Vim Came From
#48> How did Vim become so successful? I recall the early days of RoR crowd were pushing for Vim too. It was hipster in term of adopting new and awesome things and RoR crowd really push some new things. This was when the editors war was still a thing.
I’m assuming RoR is Ruby on Rails here? If so, this seems extremely odd considering the age of the two things.
I don't get your statement. But to clarify I was talking about how the crowd in RoR have a high uptick on vim editors. I was reminiscing on the old days of RoR that may have contribute to some more people adopt Vim.
A casual google shows this including a poll in 2014: https://www.sitepoint.com/editor-rubyists-use/
There's even a quora question too: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many-Rubyists-use-VI-M
And a plausible answer "Why rubyists went with vim over emacs could stem from the popular rails.vim plugin from Tim Pope."
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#49> While Emacs certainly still has a following, some people think that the Editor Wars are over and that Vim won.16 The 2018 Stack Overflow Developer Survey suggests that this is true; only 4.1% of respondents used Emacs. I'm an Emacs user for years now and love the editor. But I'm curious about this claim of its poor popularity. The article refers to a piece from http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Bea…
Re: Where Vim Came From
#50From the article: > ...Emacs could cost hundreds of dollars (this was before GNU Emacs) Emacs clones (of various levels of compatibility) for unix and other systems could be purchased back around the time this sentence is set, but to be fair, the original Emacs (or EMACS -- the ITS filesystem only had upper case) evolved by RMS et al from Gene Ciccarelli's TECO init file was naturally free. And Bernie Greenbergs Emac…
http://multicians.org/mepap.html - Greenberg's "Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation" is the canonical Multics Emacs paper.
While "emacs" is the command to invoke emacs, it was always referred to as Emacs in the documentation and the program itself.
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