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Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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He claimed the Sandy Hook shooting never happened for example and that the parents of the victims were actors

So why now. Sandy Hook was five years ago.

Because that's just an example. He has plenty of objectionable content.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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As a reminder to everyone: the constitutional guarantee to freedom of speech means that the _government_ cannot censor any views (outside of certain exceptions for threatening language, and the like). It does not mean that a private entity has to enable speech that they find objectionable.

So you support the idea that Verizon and AT&T should be free to block whatever content they wish, correct?

I support the term "freedom of speech" as it refers to the Constitution being used correctly.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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I agree with most of the comments here. Private entities such as Apple should be free to work with whomever they want on their platforms.

However, i feel if this was some left-leaning podcast, the same people supporting this removal would be outraged.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Floating ideas is not "Fire in a crowded theatre"!

Saying Sandy Hook didn’t happen and that the parents were actors is not “floating ideas”.

Ohh well then basically you are saying no one should be allowed to make public statements that could cause a revolution. Why cant you feel your own stupidity!

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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post #29

As a reminder to everyone: the constitutional guarantee to freedom of speech means that the _government_ cannot censor any views (outside of certain exceptions for threatening language, and the like). It does not mean that a private entity has to enable speech that they find objectionable.

So you support the idea that Verizon and AT&T should be free to block whatever content they wish, correct?

> So you support the idea that Verizon and AT&T should be free to block whatever content they wish, correct?

Not necessarily. Apple is a non-monopoly making a judgement about their corner of a decentralised protocol. That’s quite different from an ISP, where many Americans have little or no choice. Particularly when said ISPs have often received lawful monopolies and government subsidies. Context matters. Finally, my ISP doesn’t have terms of use in respect of content; Apple does.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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As a reminder to everyone: the constitutional guarantee to freedom of speech means that the _government_ cannot censor any views (outside of certain exceptions for threatening language, and the like). It does not mean that a private entity has to enable speech that they find objectionable.

Yes, and everyone is free to criticize Apple for not supporting freedom of speech, even though if they are not obliged to do so.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you support the idea that Verizon and AT&T should be free to block whatever content they wish, correct?

> So you support the idea that Verizon and AT&T should be free to block whatever content they wish, correct? Not necessarily. Apple is a non-monopoly making a judgement about their corner of a decentralised protocol. That’s quite different from an ISP, where many Americans have little or no choice. Particularly when said ISPs have often received lawful monopolies and government subsidies. Context matters. Finally, my…

In my area, I have access to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and many other smaller ISPs. Since there is no ISP monopoly in my area, should these ISPs be allowed to block content?

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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Probably be down-voted for this, but I find it funny, lots of people here support Apple. No matter how trash the podcast author was, I'd imagine there'd be an outrage if this were a move by Google.

I'm not a fan of either, but interesting to observe the polarized reactions depending on the corporate in question.

Re: Apple is removing Alex Jones and InfoWars’ podcasts from iTunes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, now let's make open decentralized app distribution platforms that cannot be censored like this.

Go right ahead. And then watch as nobody uses them. Because nobody other than a fringe minority actually wants free speech in all its deranged, violent, racist, mysgonistic, cruel, abusive forms. The majority of us just want a nice, safe space free from the nasty side of humanity.

Sorry Alex Jones speaks out against parents giving puberty blockers to babies and this gets him removed from Apple.
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