This static website seems to be down. Archive link: http://web.archive.org/web/20180731143228/https://pxlnv.com/...
Not only that, but it also has 2 trackers on it (google analytics and carbonads). Hard to take this argument seriously.
The Bullshit Web
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#42It's not only the web anymore. What about the desktop Slack that can take up to 1Gb of RAM for a "simple" chat client.
I don't know why the slack desktop client is so popular. It's almost no different from the web client, but eats more RAM if you already have Chrome open. Just pin Slack in a tab and save your memory
> I don't know why the slack desktop client is so popular.
In-dock notifications and system notifications are my reasons, as well as a dedicated window I can alt-tab to instead of tabbing through browser windows, then navigating to the Slack tab.
(I realize that for some people, "hiding" Slack in a pinned tab may be a feature.)
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#43Amen to every word except this sentence. "Better choices should be made by web developers to not ship this bullshit in the first place." No developer I know, web or otherwise, wants to do any of this, and all of them are religious in their use of ad blockers and autoplay stoppers. This is the kind of stuff developers are forced to do with guns to their heads by the PMs and marketing teams that actually determine the…
yeah, this is a common thing i see among woke webdevs. maybe because their salaries are high for an entry level job, or maybe because they’re bored with how simple webdev is, they feel like if they do their job without questioning things they’re basically nazis “just following orders.”
it’s just a job! no gas station attendant will refuse to sell cigarettes because of their moral compass. the actual solution should be a government that protects its citizens with things like gdpr.
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#44It's not just publishers. My current org uses SalesForce and it's frustratingly slow. Opening a single record takes several seconds as every single interface element is generated dynamically and then populated, seemingly one at a time. When it's finally done loading, you click on a dropdown, and then the dropdown just shows you a loading spinner, as your client asks the server what should be populated in the dropdown…
SalesForce slowness does not equate to "all customers of web apps are getting a bad deal".
Go look at reelgood.com. Imagine if Salesforce worked like that. It should be clear as day that this is a SalesForce problem, not a modern-web problem.
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#45Unpopular opinion alert:
Maybe the "bullshit" is only bullshit to you, the thorny tech-savvy reader. Maybe businesses have tried the plaintext approach, and their business was improved by adding fonts, stylesheets, API calls, spinners, scripts, high-res images, and god knows what else. Maybe speed improvements are not important beyond a certain point. Maybe 5MB doesn't matter to most people. Maybe micro-optimization is costly in large organizations.
Maybe other people making these decisions aren't idiots, and maybe, just maybe, they're even thornier and tech-savvier than you.
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#47It's not only the web anymore. What about the desktop Slack that can take up to 1Gb of RAM for a "simple" chat client.
My GMail tab runs between 225MB and 400MB+. And I used to think Java's memory usage was bad...
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#48This static website seems to be down. Archive link: http://web.archive.org/web/20180731143228/https://pxlnv.com/...
Not only that, but it also has 2 trackers on it (google analytics and carbonads). Hard to take this argument seriously.
I don't use Google Analytics, and Carbon's script is restricted by my CSP to showing the display ad. They also have a reasonable privacy policy where they're not tracking users or generating libraries of behavioural data, as far as I know.
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#49I've said this before, but it bears repeating: Moby Dick is 1.2mb uncompressed in plain-text. That's lower than the "average" news website by quite a bit--I just loaded the New York Times front page. It was 6.6mb. that's more than 5 copies of Moby Dick, solely for a gateway to the actual content that I want. A secondary reload was only 5mb. I then opened a random article. The article itself was about 1,400 words long…
Comparing the raw text of a fiction novel to the code of a website is a pretty asinine comparison, honestly.
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#50I agree with the spirit of the article, in that we should be striving for a leaner web. But last year I had to build an iOS SDK. As an SDK, we wanted it to be as small as humanly possible. It came out to around 12mb, which is obviously too large. So I tried removing literally everything but one file, and it came out to 10mb. So an iOS package, compiled, with only one class, comes out to 10 megabytes. Yes, the web can…
I dare to disagree: 10MB for a single-class-app is "as dire as some make it out to be". For comparison: Doom 2 came on 4 1.44MB floppy disks, Duke Nukem 3D on 13. Full games, including all assets.... going into a quiet corner for some weeping
yeah. and if it was only the mbs, well, ok. everyone prefers hd to sd video. but the real problem is that the extra mbs we see are mostly things that we don't need, that don't add anything, that we would be better without, and that in many cases are completely unjustified and do not only hinder the user, but also the very own developers (who sometimes are so lost that don't even realize themselves).