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Evolving Floorplans

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Re: Evolving Floorplans

#42

i am a product of american public school. in every school all the classrooms (except portables) had a wall that was mostly windows. you can see thats also true in the original school design. i’d rather have a ton of windows than shorter distance to walk. you could feel the enclosed difference in portable rooms

He talks about windows if you scroll down.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

#43
On a related note I’d love a way to optimize kitchen layout. What items to store in cabinets and drawers to minimize dishwasher unloading time, optimize cooking.

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#45
Right optimized one looks best, because it's the only one that doesn't squirrel any of the big rooms (library, gym, cafeteria) away at the ends of corridors.

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#46

I thought classrooms required an emergency exit. The original layout is probably specifically designed to give every room an exterior wall. Still, very interesting project.

The original layout looks quite reasonable. It seems to optimize giving classrooms many windows for natural light and fresh air. Additionally the layout mostly keeps noisy areas such as the gym and cafe away from classes.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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I like it, despite the infeasibility. Here are a few more things missing from the plan: 1) The main door should be by the admin offices, for security reasons. 2) The gym has to be rectangular for the basketball court, or large enough that it can contain it. 3) One of the gym's looks slightly non-convex, which is pointless. (Although that might be an artifact of rendering the door.)

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The author describes the results as 'irrational,' but I'd hardly agree with the negative connotation of that word: I think that the generated floorplans look lovely, and I wish that I'd gone to school somewhere like that. Far from irrational, I think it's quite rational to try to design buildings to be pleasant to live in, not just easy to draw with a straightedge.

Also, the generated rooms look much like the sort of rooms one would build with cob. A cob schoolhouse could be awesome.

Re: Evolving Floorplans

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Sure, it looks cool. But there are so many other properties of a home that aren't accounted for in this model (mostly aesthetic ones, like cozyness, feelings of safety/comfort, how the plan interacts with light, etc). One day we'll live in homes with automated floorplans, I'm sure of it. But it won't happen (or at least, we won't be happy about living in such things) until the day we figure out ways to deal with more…

I was at a vehicle AI conference early this month discussing how AI will only output based on the quality of its inputs. And the fear coming out of that conference was if space wasn't correctly dedicated or allocated, the AI will optimize the systems as much as it can to squeeze out every single ounce of efficiency. Qualitative items such as the ones listed are important for customer focused environments, however, I'…

It all comes down to how explicitly preferences are originally understood and then if the reward function can incorporate implicit analysis.

There have been recent studies about AI powered shirt design - the original input uses existing designs in terms of color and shape rather than the basic naive description of requirements that an engineer would give. Then the designs can be assessed by a review board or put up on a site and not produced until some n quantity of purchases.

You wouldn't try to detect cats in images without labelled data why would you try something MUCH harder without labelled data?!?!?!?!?!

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#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> building costs beyond just material use Yep. The "optimized" floorplans would be an order of magnitude more expensive to build than the original. I mean, drywall alone would take a lot more time with all the cuts, mudding and sanding more joints. The thought of framing out these walls makes my head hurt.

What about concrete 3D-printing? (I'm not even sure if it's real or feasible; I just remember a bunch of pop news articles with a video of a large CNC machine depositing concrete to construct a building.)

Concrete is manual 3D printing from 100+ years ago. =)

I've seen a concrete 3d printer, but it doesn't look like it would be structural. i.e. not sure how you would print around full lengths of rebar?

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