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The Four Thieves Vinegar Collective

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> “...the price of Daraprim hasn’t changed,” he said. He reached into his pocket and produced a handful of white pills. “I guess I better hand out some more,” Laufer said as he tossed the Daraprim into the audience. I found it hard to keep reading after that. What's it called when people get so emotional about a cause they just start acting irrationally and doing more harm than good?

I'm not sure I understand what harm was done here?

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post #38

An interesting approach to the criminal lack of healthcare to vulnerable populations in the US (and potentially other places with third world health systems)

Is there actually a criminal lack of medical care? What is Medicaid? Tens of billions of dollars are going to help nobody?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but "password protected website" is a weird synonym for "RAR file".

It's not saying the RAR file is that. It's saying you can only get access to the file through a password-protected website on the dark web.

See my sibling comment. The article told the story slightly misworded.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You asked before that I clarify my arguments. If the recipe is so secret, do not patent it. Some companies forgo patents for that reason. Here nobody is compelling anyone. My anti patent point just means not letting the government enforce IP rights. In case like these, it is not just ideology - it is morally wrong as explained in the quote.

I am fairly against IP laws as well without being capitalist. My point was that the argument in the quote, "If you accept that axiomatically, then by the same logic when you withhold access to lifesaving medication that's murder. From a moral standpoint it's an imperative to enact theft to prevent murder.” was not a capitalist argument itself. Forcing people to give up property that was legally acquired, to avoid a w…

I believe IP laws cause net loss on the economy as a whole - just like restricting immigration.

Here, I think the pro capitalist and socialist arguments are aligned. I quoted the argument because I felt taking the extreme of the opposing idea was quite good

Murder is also bad because a dead person no longer participates in the economy after the funeral. This is a loss for the economy as a whole. Even people completely lacking any morality can understand that.

Re: The Four Thieves Vinegar Collective

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post #38

An interesting approach to the criminal lack of healthcare to vulnerable populations in the US (and potentially other places with third world health systems)

Is there actually a criminal lack of medical care? What is Medicaid? Tens of billions of dollars are going to help nobody?

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post #38

An interesting approach to the criminal lack of healthcare to vulnerable populations in the US (and potentially other places with third world health systems)

Is there actually a criminal lack of medical care? What is Medicaid? Tens of billions of dollars are going to help nobody?

I guess you’re being downvoted because it’s not “tens of billions of dollars” at all!

More like $574 billion dollars in FY2016.

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/total-medicaid-...

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#49
The essential problem here seems to be that the FDA approval process for medicine laboratories is impractically severe and probably represents an instance of regulatory capture.

While this is cool, it doesn't seem to generate attention in a way that could fix the underlying problem, except by dint of people who already know about it. Legislators are infamously subject to undue influence from medical companies that want to protect their oligopolies. A better hacking initiative might work to expose and excoriate those pharmaceutical and medical device companies which have abused the right to lobby in order to generate profits.

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