Why I Don't Buy Organic, and Why You Might Not Want to Either
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Re: Why I Don't Buy Organic, and Why You Might Not Want to Either
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That is not the reason I've ever heard anybody say they purchase organic fruits and veggies. I've had more than one person tell me that organic foods taste better & they have higher nutritional value. Related but talking to those people about the all natural label is just a lost cause.
A lot of organic foods are different strains than typically sold at grocery stores, and they do tend to taste better simply by virtue of being a strain likely chosen more for its taste than transportability. Of course though it all depends on where you shop. If you're just comparing two identical apples organic vs non-organic, then you'd almost certainly not taste the difference.
While this doesn't pertain to organic food directly it does suggest that the industrial food system may be optimizing for different things than a consumer may want.
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#43Well that watered-down endorsement sure inspires confidence!
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great find. No bias at all... Plenty of articles say that organic is not worth it due to no nutritional value. That is not the reason I've ever heard anybody say they purchase organic fruits and veggies. It's the chemicals. I don't want to eat food that has been sprayed with chemicals over and over again to kill the various predators to that plant. I also don't want those chemicals to be in the water supply or ground…
Enjoy your environmentally-wasteful famine-enhancing feel-good food.
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#46This is the key point Don’t get distracted if author is biased or not...he is making sone goood points. I was not aware of this..”The USDA, which oversees the foods labeled as “Certified Organic”, states quite clearly on its website about its role in organic, that “Our regulations do not address food safety or nutrition.” Foods labelled “Certified Organic” must adhere to certain rules and regulations but aren’t endow…
"However, many consumers believe that the Organic label means ... This is not true." He is correctly stating that consumers erroneously believe the label means. But the sentence is brilliantly constructed that the final words left me with the sense that it is a statement about organic food, not consumer's misunderstanding of the label: "... the food has superior nutrition and is safer, especially in regard to pestici…
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#47From the author's bio: "Since April of 2016 I work part time for the non-profit, CropLife Foundation communicating the benefits of crop protection agents" To read it yourself, go to https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensavage , then click on "Full bio"
Great find. No bias at all... Plenty of articles say that organic is not worth it due to no nutritional value. That is not the reason I've ever heard anybody say they purchase organic fruits and veggies. It's the chemicals. I don't want to eat food that has been sprayed with chemicals over and over again to kill the various predators to that plant. I also don't want those chemicals to be in the water supply or ground…
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#48The author says .... "and the actual pesticides used today are mostly relatively non-toxic to humans." Nothing can be further from the truth. Most (in fact all) pesticides used are designed to kill biological cells. So pesticides do not distinguish between a caterpillars cell or a humans. All pesticides are harmful to humans, some in tiny doses, some in large doses. FYI - Landmark lawsuit claims Monsanto hid dangers…
Maybe not all of them, but many, such as Bt-derived toxins, are famous for it.
Re: Why I Don't Buy Organic, and Why You Might Not Want to Either
#49In my opinion, there are many misconceptions about the practices, advantages and disadvantages of both conventional and organic farming.
First of all there are currently three modes of production that are worth of mention: 1) "conventional" farming, 2) integrated production, 3) organic farming.
Conventional farming can mean many things, depending on the country we are farming, but mainly we should interpret it as non-illegal farming in general: anything that is within regular agronomic practice for a given location and crop.
Organic Farming (OF) is the practice that, fundamentally, prohibits the usage of synthetic agrochemicals. Moreover, GMOs are also prohibited and some natural occurring fertilizers. The aim is to minimize ecological impact and respect biodiversity, and the means of achieving that goal is to radically change agricultural practices.
Integrated Production (IP) is somewhat half way between the two. The idea is to leave the usage of agrochemicals for the last case scenario (and when above the the economic threshold), when all other alternatives are not available. Pests and diseases have to be monitored and auxiliary species levels measured and maintained. The list of acceptable substances and respective dosages is regulated and depends on the crop. Soil analysis is also mandatory. There are soil maintenance practices that have to be respected. A practice register has to be filled with each year crops, and given to certification authorities along with pesticide and fertilizer stocks registries. The bonus is that whatever one is allowed to do in OG one can also do in IP, generally speaking.
Currently, in the EU, the standards of conventional farming are being raised towards IP, so that in a few years there is only either IP or OF. In other terms, conventional farming of the future EU will be what we call today IP.
The single most important aspect of either practices is that none can go without regulation and official certification. I don't really trust the way regulation is enforced these days, because it's being delegated to private companies that provide the certification for their customers.
My only issue with organic farming is the misconception that there is something wrong with synthetic fertilizers and pesticides that doesn't come with so-called organic or natural pesticides and fertilizers, and that the produce of OG is healthier in general. This is not true, although many companies benefit from this reiterated confusion. Greenwashing works better if there is a OG logo somewhere.
My second issue with organic farming is that by avoiding some means of protection, produce quality can decrease significantly, and whole crops can and will sometimes be lost without need, which comes with costs to producers but also economical consequences to food security and price volatility.
In my opinion, organic farming is only feasible in the long term with very specific crops and for medium-small scale areas.
Other than these aspects (certification, purported health benefits and insecurity) my advice to anyone is by all means eat organic whenever you want. But remember there is always Integrated Production.
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#50The current mass farming practices (both for meat and non-meant) don't work for the long term as they deplete and cause other resource issues.
Having them work together to continue to enrich the soil is the only way we can continue farming. That's why going vegan isn't sustainable also. People argue meat takes more resources, but you actually need both in the farm.