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Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by jasonvorhe »

Dunedan wrote: post #22
forapurpose wrote: post #17

I've been wondering why so many Bloomberg articles have been on the front page recently, maybe in the last 3-6 months. This OP seems like a good example because there has been coverage of Fuchsia from more technical sources for awhile and I doubt the Bloomberg article adds much. Or is the change in frequency of Bloomberg posts just a misperception on my part? I don't have any data.

I also have the feeling that the amount of links to Bloomberg articles on HN significantly increased in the past months. I'm not a fan of that though, because Bloomberg articles seldomly cover really new topics or add in-depth information. Which is fine, as Bloomberg's audience is a different one than HN's, isn't it?

Well, at least they're quoting and Google source with specifics instead of just relying on source code, docs and speculation.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by ilikehurdles »

drewda wrote: post #32

> "The company must also settle some internal feuds. Some of the principles that Fuchsia creators are pursuing have already run up against Google’s business model. Google’s ads business relies on an ability to target users based on their location and activity, and Fuchsia’s nascent privacy features would, if implemented, hamstring this important business. There’s already been at least one clash between advertising an…

Would be nice if there were a competitor mobile platform to iOS that wasn't built from the ground up to sell you advertising based on personal data. I guess Blackberry was the last mobile OS that didn't need to know every detail of my pissing habits.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by deaddodo »

gizmo385 wrote: post #3
simosx wrote: post #2

This Bloomberg article has several shortcomings. 1. "Android and Chrome OS are built on Linux, a widely used open-source programming language." Here they mix up the Linux kernel with the Java programming language. 2. "Moving from Linux, though, could have upsides for Google. Android’s use of the technology, which is owned by Oracle Corp., is at the center of a lengthy, bitter lawsuit between the two companies. Shifti…

Imagine the horrors if Oracle "owned" Linux...

Well, they did build JavaOS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaOS

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by aidenn0 »

Matthias247 wrote: post #37
notatoad wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there's been much in the way of announcements, but yes, this has been in progress for a few years. It's being developed in the open, with a public github repo.

The source code in the open is one thing. However there are not a lot of design documents or discussions visible for the public. Therefore it's hard to follow the development and really getting an idea where the project is heading.

This was actually the main point of The Cathedral and the Bazaar; GNU was the Cathedral...

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by thinkingemote »

drewda wrote: post #32

> "The company must also settle some internal feuds. Some of the principles that Fuchsia creators are pursuing have already run up against Google’s business model. Google’s ads business relies on an ability to target users based on their location and activity, and Fuchsia’s nascent privacy features would, if implemented, hamstring this important business. There’s already been at least one clash between advertising an…

When we are in our nursing homes later in life we will get to hear some interesting stories about the creation of these world changing technologies in a middle of the afternoon radio show.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by antpls »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #42
drewda wrote: post #32

> "The company must also settle some internal feuds. Some of the principles that Fuchsia creators are pursuing have already run up against Google’s business model. Google’s ads business relies on an ability to target users based on their location and activity, and Fuchsia’s nascent privacy features would, if implemented, hamstring this important business. There’s already been at least one clash between advertising an…

Would be nice if there were a competitor mobile platform to iOS that wasn't built from the ground up to sell you advertising based on personal data. I guess Blackberry was the last mobile OS that didn't need to know every detail of my pissing habits.

Android, iOS and other competitors will have to comply with EU regulations about data privacy. They can build OSes with ads in mind, but it has to comply with laws anyway.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by pducks32 »

forapurpose wrote: post #17

I've been wondering why so many Bloomberg articles have been on the front page recently, maybe in the last 3-6 months. This OP seems like a good example because there has been coverage of Fuchsia from more technical sources for awhile and I doubt the Bloomberg article adds much. Or is the change in frequency of Bloomberg posts just a misperception on my part? I don't have any data.

It’s possible it’s because of Gurman (the author). Mark Gurman was a big Apple journo and has great sources. Bloomberg scooped him up and he’s been at the front of big Apple rumors and Bloomberg has risen because of them. Especially after Marzipan was confirmed in macOS Mojave source code.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by epicide »

eganist wrote: post #40
drewda wrote: post #32

> "The company must also settle some internal feuds. Some of the principles that Fuchsia creators are pursuing have already run up against Google’s business model. Google’s ads business relies on an ability to target users based on their location and activity, and Fuchsia’s nascent privacy features would, if implemented, hamstring this important business. There’s already been at least one clash between advertising an…

> The ad team prevailed, this person said. Of course they did. A controversial idea, but you know how much easier this would be for everyone if Google offered an option for users to be paid for volunteering your information to them? It's a precedent most fledgling ad companies wouldn't be able to match... even if it's just a few dollars a month, or maybe 30ish bucks a year. It'd cut into Google's bottom line, but it…

What would be better is the ability to pay for Google not to sell your data. However, the new problem would be making sure they aren't selling your data, anyway.

Re: Project Fuchsia: Google Is Quietly Working on a Successor to Android

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Post by thinkingemote »

coding123 wrote: post #38
wpdev_63 wrote: post #9

I am really surprised Microsoft isn't doing something like this. They are losing the OS war.

I would have agreed with you a year or so ago. I've been on MBP for about 4 years, my next laptop is going to be a PC again.

Linux and Windows runs on personal computers
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