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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by Entalpi »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

I remember paying $1850 for my MBP late 2013 which was the entry model of the 15”. The ”same” model starts at $2800.

Given this was 2013 and I remember Apple increasing the price twice. One time because of exchange rates and one time when they redsigned the line a bit..

Note: I am converting my local currency to dollars (1:10) so the exact dollar value is slighty lower but you all get the idea.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by 21 »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Rolex or Gucci isn't cheap either.

If you want to look successful, you need to spend the money.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by notadoc »

jen20 wrote: post #40
notadoc wrote: post #22

Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

This is simply "anecdata". I too touch type, and simply remapped escape to caps lock, the same as the last 15 years, and moved on. I have had a touch bar since late 2016, and have not missed function keys a single time, while I have several uses for the touch bar. I would be annoyed if the touch bar were removed, or the trackpad made smaller, or the keyboard made spongier, or any of the other things that people on he…

Your reply to "anecdata" is.... your personal anecdata? That's fascinating.

Anyway I am glad you personally don't mind changing long standardized keyboarding habits by using software modifications to make up for befuddling product decisions. I think that's wonderful, and I am thrilled that works for you and a handful of other people that have a background with ADM-3A terminals, though you should really remap the 'tab' key to 'escape' if you want to be truly proper.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by threeseed »

neonscribe wrote: post #16
geophile wrote: post #4

So they’ve caught up to Windows laptops on specs but still have that abomination of a keyboard. After all the complaints.

The report is that the keyboard is not the same. Quieter, but not necessarily more reliable. Reliability remains to be seen. Keep in mind that the uproar over keyboard problems started far too recently to have affected the design of the 2018 version.

Apple would've known about the keyboard issue in the first days/weeks after launch.

They have repair rate metrics coming from the Apple Stores.

Especially since fixing the keyboard requires an entire top case which are really expensive.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by asdsa5325 »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Why the hell did you pay 2300 for one in 2014? That's so overpriced it's kind of sad that they have Apple fanboys in their grasp so much.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by asdsa5325 »

21 wrote: post #42
knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Rolex or Gucci isn't cheap either. If you want to look successful, you need to spend the money.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right. A mac is a status symbol. If you wanted a good system, you could get far more than a mac can give with the same price.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by satysin »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

I have a new 15" MBP on order at £3300. I also have a similar spec XPS 15 which cost me £2600. So yes the MBP is £700. The XPS also has a better CPU (i9-8950HK) but that is kind of a waste, I only got it with that because Dell basically upgraded me to it for free.

However I have had no end of issues with my XPS 15. To the point that I have had enough and I am returning it for a refund and will pickup something else. The first unit had physical damage to the lid so I got a replacement sent. The replacement has coil whine, interference on audio out. backlight bleed and the space bar has developed a wobble so does not pick up all presses. For a £2600 that is unacceptable. I know people like to hate on the new MBP keyboards but I have not had a single problem with my 2016 MBP. That machine is basically perfect and I hope/expect the 2018 model to be the same.

To be honest I am fine with pay £700 more for a machine that doesn't develop a problem with the spacebar after 11 days as well as all the other problems I have had. If I were to calculate the amount of time I have spent on the phone with Dell and waiting around for collections/deliveries I doubt I would be far off that £700 in time waste to be honest.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by threeseed »

asdsa5325 wrote: post #46
21 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rolex or Gucci isn't cheap either. If you want to look successful, you need to spend the money.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted, you are right. A mac is a status symbol. If you wanted a good system, you could get far more than a mac can give with the same price.

Such nonsense.

Please show me a laptop with the same quality trackpad and an operating system that works as well with my iOS devices e.g. AirDrop, Continuity, iCloud Notes, Photos, Keychain. And of course one that has perfect driver support and supports apps like Pixelmator and Omnigraffle.

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