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Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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As Netflix becomes a bigger player around the world and it flexes its influence, I expect to see some international jurisdictions to question its power and imperial projection (projecting its values on countries with different values as well as for threatening the viability of local industries)

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Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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I havent watched normal television is so long. Cause there is never anything good on anymore. Its either Youtube, Streams or Netflix now from here on in. Even DVDS got phased out.

> Its either Youtube, Streams or Netflix now from here on in

What makes you think the medium has stopped developing? It's quite likely that something else will be invented that will be superior to any of those, and that will make you wonder why you ever put up with them.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

#43
post #4

I wouldn't dismiss their competition either. I specifically paid for Hulu solely for "The Handmaids Tail", an incredibly well done drama. ( https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5834204/ ) Still dwarfed by Netflix with a ~$10B market cap, this battle isn't over. Amazon has a decent shot as well.

I love the Handmaid's Tale, but it drives me bonkers that they release new episodes at the rate of one per week. Release all the episodes in one day darn it! Making me wait pisses me off and (as I'm discovering) want to complain about it online.

Call me old school, but I actually prefer weekly release. Even for stuff that's already fully released I find watching it at a set pace is a more pleasant / affecting experience.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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post #33

I've seen a couple of Netlflix shows and don't understand the improvement. It's the same TV junk but over the Internet. Now even made by the same people. Other forms of content have been completely transformed by the change in medium. Podcasts have built upon their radio legacy and diversified tremendously. YouTube allowed people to share nearly anything from incoherent rants to whole college courses. Netflix merely…

There's tons of great TV shows nowadays. Mentioning Grey's anatomy and Glee does a disservice to TV. Besides the obvious Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad there's Stranger things, Black Mirror, Westworld, just to name a few. Hell, all of the above are much much better than 90% of the crappy Marvel/superhero/blockbuster movie Hollywood keeps spewing nowadays.

I'll agree with you and the OP.

I think what the OP is trying to say here is that for example netflix just mass produces shows with the same people over and over again dropping the quality of its shows. I'd say netflix has some good shows to watch, but the way its going and the way its producing shows I'd say most of netflix shows are garbage with only a few of them being nice to watch.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely it's alienating me more and more each quarter with it's "progressive" nature.

Can you give an example?

It's probably best for civility's sake if he didn't. Would it really add much to the discussion if he did? I think it should suffice to say that the range of netflix content is far narrower than the ideological range of the general population.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

#46

Their biggest issue, I feel at least, is that their plots for original content are getting slower and slower. You can actually do faster paced, more engaging content. Just look at 12 Monkeys and Fringe.

I agree. I mostly stay away from the Netflix-made show, as it takes 13 episodes to discover there really was no plot to the show.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

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post #12

As Netflix becomes a bigger player around the world and it flexes its influence, I expect to see some international jurisdictions to question its power and imperial projection (projecting its values on countries with different values as well as for threatening the viability of local industries)

For the local industries, if you mean local creators or content producers, Netflix is "just" a new channel. If anything, it can help them have viability where they were before restricted by the size of their local market.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

#48
I'd be more satisfied with Netflix and other streaming services operating in my country if these would offer wider content catalogs not limited by licensing agreements - with ability to rent it, as classic vhs or dvd rental was working (no idea if that was already a thing on Netflix - it operates here since 2016). I had no clue that N. had Family Guy until I read on 3rd part site that it's being pulled out without any information it was there in first place. We're paying same money for the service but available content is different; instead of popular series known and aired in tv, we're getting some cheap uknown fillers. So you see the problem here.

Sadly, such rental it's not going to happen because companies want to hold their deck of "cards" and refuse to share it with other tables in this video streaming casino.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

#49
post #4

I wouldn't dismiss their competition either. I specifically paid for Hulu solely for "The Handmaids Tail", an incredibly well done drama. ( https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5834204/ ) Still dwarfed by Netflix with a ~$10B market cap, this battle isn't over. Amazon has a decent shot as well.

The Handmaid's Tale is great, and here in the UK is shown on Channel 4 (free to air, only a TV licence is required). Then there's Billions, my current favourite show, which is on Sky Atlantic (subscription, about £30 per month) - also home to Game Of Thrones and everything else HBO.

If you add Prime for Mr Robot and Netflix for Stranger Things, it starts to get quite expensive.

Re: Netflix is moving television beyond time-slots and national markets

#50
post #33

I've seen a couple of Netlflix shows and don't understand the improvement. It's the same TV junk but over the Internet. Now even made by the same people. Other forms of content have been completely transformed by the change in medium. Podcasts have built upon their radio legacy and diversified tremendously. YouTube allowed people to share nearly anything from incoherent rants to whole college courses. Netflix merely…

There's tons of great TV shows nowadays. Mentioning Grey's anatomy and Glee does a disservice to TV. Besides the obvious Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad there's Stranger things, Black Mirror, Westworld, just to name a few. Hell, all of the above are much much better than 90% of the crappy Marvel/superhero/blockbuster movie Hollywood keeps spewing nowadays.

Glee and Grey's Anatomy are from the OP, not my examples. Netflix is hiring the creators of these shows to make more shows, presumably somewhat similar. Breaking Bad is not from Netflix, neither is GoT which was interesting for about 1½ seasons. Even worse, Black Mirror was IMHO better before it moved to Netflix (but to some extent this is true of every show, creators have more pent-up, fresh ideas in the beginning).

While the tidal wave of capeshit is unwatchable and depressing, this is not all the competition Netflix has to contend with. First, you have every movie and tv show ever made. Then you can watch them again. Most shows can't even beat a 7th rewatch of Seinfeld.

Second, you can do something else than watching TV, like hitting the gym, writing a blog, taking your dog for a surprise extra walk, playing with your kids, making a steak instead of having takeout, cleaning your room while listening to Jordan Peterson telling you to clean your room... anything really.

And, I would argue, all of these are a better use of time than anything on Netflix right now.

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