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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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post #27

I don't know about trascended... But it definitely has gone backwards since. But irc in its heyday had far higher quality and duration of connection than much that followed it. Maybe it was truly the first generation of the internet. I still have many of those teenage irc connections in my life years later. It's not hard to imagine IRC surviving if it had a natural path to instant messaging when Icq/aim/yahoo arrived…

I'm waiting on an NNTP revival.

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#42
post #27

I don't know about trascended... But it definitely has gone backwards since. But irc in its heyday had far higher quality and duration of connection than much that followed it. Maybe it was truly the first generation of the internet. I still have many of those teenage irc connections in my life years later. It's not hard to imagine IRC surviving if it had a natural path to instant messaging when Icq/aim/yahoo arrived…

I'm waiting on an NNTP revival.

Rss too

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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post #33
post #10

I'm interested to see how they manage to convince communities to use their IRC services over competitors like Discord when so many users see Discord as easy, free, trendy, etc. Of course services liks Slack, Telegram, Skype, etc, are also potential competitors in this ecosystem. >IRC Gaming (We're going to have literally hundreds of thousands in cash prizes!) I suppose literally paying users money is one way, but it…

Good point. I'm a big fan of the federation of different IRC servers, but also like have rich media embeds and drag+drop image uploading, even if that currently means being tied into the discord servers.

But I think this is only a problem from a UX standpoint. IRC has DCC, for instance, but it's a matter of building a client which e.g. inlines DCC "attachments" or displays images beneath messages with links. If IRC is truly "revived" there's a chance IRC clients grow or new ones emerge to keep up with "modern" IM systems, and IRC will still have more benefits than these (openness, ubiquity...)

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

> first class support for emoji

I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#45
post #19

I love the optimism. Really. However, while IRC is a great collaboration tool, and one I also grew up using, I find that though users are anonymous and no one can see each other, there are still plenty of trolls who have many ways of getting under one's skin. This utopia of IRC simply doesn't exist. It is still comprised of humans. Anonymous humans. And anonymity tends to bring out the worst in people.

Social Networks with real name policies can be just as anonymous as 4chan. And sometimes, an IRC channel where everyone has a pseudonym can be more intimate than anything else. What makes the difference is:

- Moderation

- Small Groups

- Regulars who get to know each other

You can achieve this anywhere online. But I think IRC lends itself to smaller, closely knit communities.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#46
post #36

irc is lively enough, steady and just right. Thanks but no thanks

I'm on irc still.. but i've cut down on all the channels I used to hang around in, and now I'm basically only in #motorcycles on EFNet, where IRC is alive and well. Topics range from rebuilding carburetors to the innards of Erlang.

Huh, I'll have to drop in. I didn't realize efnet had an active #motorcycles channel. I'm in one on freenode and one on snoonet, though.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

Having used slack at a business, emoji reactions to comments are an extremely valuable business feature -- they allow people to react without having to make a full-sized comment, which helps keep conversations compact.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#49

As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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post #21

As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

Slack is today's version of a modern accessible IRC client. It doesn't preclude from the issues of slack being solved by another group. edit: For the IRC uninitiated who enjoy drive-by downvoting: Slack is IRC-inspired - the concept of channels, usernames, private messaging and bots.... in slack is almost all directly inherited from IRC.

Slack deprecated their IRC and XMPP gateways, so its no longer an IRC client.
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