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Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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The MBP is a dead horse at this point, so I took a look at the current iMacs (I'm used to working on a 27 inch display and 5K tempts me; a standalone high quality display isn't much cheaper than going with an iMac).

All stock models still come with HDDs.

I hope someone finds some Enron-level accounting trickery at Apple and the whole thing comes crashing down fast, and some other company can take the role Apple had from early 2000s to early 2010s.

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I switched back to a Linux workstation, after being "all mac laptop" since 2003 (!). My current Macbook Pro is from 2010 and my professional Macbook pro from 2015. The newest Macbooks with their stupid keyboards and USB-C only are total garbage, IMO. Sad.

I ended up buying a new 2017 15 inch MacBook Pro and it's really been not that bad. Yes, you have to use a USB-A to USB-C dongle here and there but at least for my daily use, it's not been terribly inconvenient. The machine is light and thin and I enjoy it immensely, although I'm a little scared about the keyboard (so far no problems). Touchbar?... meh. Neither like not dislike. I don't know. I understand the new Mac…

Needing a dongle "here and there" means that now I need to carry it with me at all times. And that means both USB-A and HDMI dongles. More things I need to worry about to make my 3500EUR machine useful. This is a clear usability regression and the "USB-C" only future doesn't seem to be happening until end of lifetime of this machine.

The keyboard feels bad and my space has started failing. This is also a clear regression with no benefit over previous model.

Touchbar is still useless with pretty much no features over function keys (excluding TouchID on the power button). Pretty much no 3rd party apps use it well and the fact that it can't hold global app shortcuts make it significanly less useful than the previous keys. Another clear regression.

It's not that the new Macs are bad machines, it's that Apple made a few baffling decisions which make the user experience worse over previous models. With pretty much no benefits.

Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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The most dangerous thing here is that the public is increasingly getting the message and idea that Apple's mac hardware is decomposing. They really need to make this a priority. I fear that the success of the iPhone is blinding them to the importance of the mac. And you can tell because they're kicking ass when it comes to iOS devices. They're so far ahead in certain areas, it's not even funny. This is reminding me o…

> The most dangerous thing here is that the public is increasingly getting the message and idea that Apple's mac hardware is decomposing.

Not sure "the public" is very aware of any of the stuff going on (or more accurately, not going on) with Macs at Apple.

I don't think the general public reads or hears any Apple news outside of what the main stream media reports. Most of the complaints about the touchbar, keyboard, etc. don't trickle up to the MSM. The MSM is more interested in reporting about iPhone news than Macs.

Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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Recently got my Mac Book Pro nicked by a kid on a moped - mid meeting.

Sadly am not impressed with the touch bar, lack of USB, keyboard failures and the hardware is definitely due an update - or a price drop. There's only so long I'll hold out and wait for an update.

Am currently thinking of getting an iMac - then a chrome book for meetings (so when it get's stolen again it's not too brutal). Anyone else got other recommendations?

Assume windows isn't the blue screen mess I remember of days gone past.

Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ended up buying a new 2017 15 inch MacBook Pro and it's really been not that bad. Yes, you have to use a USB-A to USB-C dongle here and there but at least for my daily use, it's not been terribly inconvenient. The machine is light and thin and I enjoy it immensely, although I'm a little scared about the keyboard (so far no problems). Touchbar?... meh. Neither like not dislike. I don't know. I understand the new Mac…

Needing a dongle "here and there" means that now I need to carry it with me at all times. And that means both USB-A and HDMI dongles. More things I need to worry about to make my 3500EUR machine useful. This is a clear usability regression and the "USB-C" only future doesn't seem to be happening until end of lifetime of this machine. The keyboard feels bad and my space has started failing. This is also a clear regres…

> With pretty much no benefits.

It sure is thin! And nice looking! Marchitecture, IMO.

Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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I don't get the hate about the MBP. I have the 13-inch 2017 model without the TB and I absolutely LOVE it. It's such a master piece, I simply love it and use it as my daily driver. I also don't have any problems with my keyboard, I only can tell good things about it. The 2 ports suck, but I never was in need of more, I only use the power adapter and the USB C to HDMI/DP cable that goes in my 4K screen and that's it. Havn't used any regular USB devices for years anyways.

The only thing I hate about it is the super slow CPU, but that's only partly because of Apple.

Re: Popular Mac Developer Slams Apple for 'Sad State of Macintosh Hardware'

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For years and years, I've advocated that Apple should just release the OS like Windows. It runs fine on a lot of PC hardware you can buy off the shelf (I've built a few PC's that do just this). And, with the Nvidia drivers that were released a year or two ago, most graphics cards people want to run are available. I realize that there's a lot involved with suddenly trying to support an array of hardware. But, maybe re…

Apple did in fact license their OS in the 1990s. Did not work out very well, financially, for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone#Licensed_Macin...

Indeed. However: much of the system is now based on FOSS; and given user upgrades have been free since, what, Snow Leopard in 2009?, there’s a case for them open sourcing the OS and saying “derivatives are fine provided no trademarks are used” or something like that.
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