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Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by robohamburger »

have_faith wrote: post #4
aw3c2 wrote: post #3

There is a slowly but steadily progressing engine being developed at https://freeablo.org/

It's such a shame there's no modern spiritual successor to Diablo / Diablo 2. The aesthetic and gameplay was great.

edit: Didn't read the the "spiritual" part of the "spiritual successor". Though you could argue diablo 3 is, I would not be so bold. You should still try diablo 3 if you haven't.

Diablo 3 is actually pretty good now if you want a successor. If you just want something similar to diablo 2 I suggest torchlight or titan quest.

Diablo 1 is tricky because it was so much closer to rogue likes (probably because originally it was one). I would love to see a game that has a more subdued and methodical pacing but with less town hacks :)

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by enraged_camel »

jakebasile wrote: post #19
have_faith wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a shame there's no modern spiritual successor to Diablo / Diablo 2. The aesthetic and gameplay was great.

Isometric ARPGs are niche now, but there's still games being made. Off the top of my head: - Titan Quest (just got an update and a new expansion!) - Grim Dawn - The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing - Victor Vran - Path of Exile - Warhammer 40000 Inquisitor - Martyr - Torchlight 1 & 2 (I wish Runic games hadn't imploded...) It is unfortunate that most of these don't have the same level of randomness than Diablo ha…

Grim Dawn is incredible. Second expansion comes out this Fall!

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by enraged_camel »

gabes wrote: post #8
Merthurian wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Path of Exile

This game is incredibly good. It's everything Diablo 3 should have been.

Inability to zoom out more kills it for me. Feels too much like diablo 2 at 800x600

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by EpicEng »

have_faith wrote: post #4
aw3c2 wrote: post #3

There is a slowly but steadily progressing engine being developed at https://freeablo.org/

It's such a shame there's no modern spiritual successor to Diablo / Diablo 2. The aesthetic and gameplay was great.

You need to look harder. Path of Exile and Grim Dawn are absolutely spiritual successors to Diablo.

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by lfowles »

quadcore wrote: post #31
spapas82 wrote: post #14

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I remember trying to play Diablo multiplayer through a 55.6 kbps modem. It was nice for like 5 minutes but then the connection lagged and I couldn't control my character. When the connection quality improved, I saw my character dead with all his (high level and very diffucult to find) gear stolen by other players. I was so frustrated I removed the cdrom from the drive and threw it on the wall; the cd broke and that w…

Sometimes, you can still use a broken cd.

I wouldn't risk it anymore. One time I received an ever so slightly cracked DVD from Netflix. Desperate to watch the show without waiting for a better copy to be mailed, I stuck it in the computer anyways. Ended up shattering and taking my DVD drive with it!

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by EpicEng »

robohamburger wrote: post #41
have_faith wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a shame there's no modern spiritual successor to Diablo / Diablo 2. The aesthetic and gameplay was great.

edit : Didn't read the the "spiritual" part of the "spiritual successor". Though you could argue diablo 3 is, I would not be so bold. You should still try diablo 3 if you haven't. Diablo 3 is actually pretty good now if you want a successor. If you just want something similar to diablo 2 I suggest torchlight or titan quest. Diablo 1 is tricky because it was so much closer to rogue likes (probably because originally i…

>Diablo 3 is actually pretty good now if you want a successor.

Diablo 3 is in no way a spiritual successor to D1 and 2. Yes, it's much better than it was at release, but it is still very much a streamlined, mass market friendly ARPG. Modern Diablo gameplay consists of leveling (1-2 hours), finishing your season journey (another 2-3 hours, maybe), getting your free super-powerful six piece handed to you, and then grinding paragon levels and filling in a couple of gear spots here and there.

It in no significant way resembles the Diablo of old. If you want a true sequel try PoE or Grim Dawn.

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

#48

Post by EpicEng »

jannes wrote: post #11

We should clone this repository before Github gets sent a DMCA takedown notice.

>"This work is being released to the Public Domain. No assets of Diablo are being provided. You must own a copy of Diablo and have access to the assets beforehand in order to use this software."

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by grenoire »

3pt14159 wrote: post #27
jakebasile wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isometric ARPGs are niche now, but there's still games being made. Off the top of my head: - Titan Quest (just got an update and a new expansion!) - Grim Dawn - The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing - Victor Vran - Path of Exile - Warhammer 40000 Inquisitor - Martyr - Torchlight 1 & 2 (I wish Runic games hadn't imploded...) It is unfortunate that most of these don't have the same level of randomness than Diablo ha…

I played path of exile years ago and it was great.

Now it's even better, and even more addicting...

Re: Diablo devolved – magic behind the 1996 computer game

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Post by sumeno »

degenerate wrote: post #25
thefreeman wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think as long as they don't include DIABDAT.MPQ or any of the content / texture files from the original game it should be ok.

It is. And it's mentioned at the bottom of the github page, too: "This work is being released to the Public Domain. No assets of Diablo are being provided. You must own a copy of Diablo and have access to the assets beforehand in order to use this software."

This seems legally questionable given that all of the source files have a copyright notice from Blizzard indicating distribution without written permission is prohibited.
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