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The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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These basic designs pretty much stayed the course all the way through OS 9, and some even in OS X. It's gotta be surreal to think something she designed is on millions of devices. Reminds me of someone I met who wrote video drivers for Intel. It's something small you don't think about, a tiny piece that is essential in bringing the whole thing together. Too often we think about the captains of the ships, the Gates an…

> I doubt Elon could design the engine of a rocket.

In this case, you're wrong. Elon is actually the lead engineer on at least early SpaceX rockets.

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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We couldn’t afford a Mac when I was a kid, but Susan’s icons were one of the primary things that made it stand out as “special”. From the trash can to the fact that it booted up with a smiling Mac icon, instead of the typical stream of bios logs on every other machine of the day.

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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These basic designs pretty much stayed the course all the way through OS 9, and some even in OS X. It's gotta be surreal to think something she designed is on millions of devices. Reminds me of someone I met who wrote video drivers for Intel. It's something small you don't think about, a tiny piece that is essential in bringing the whole thing together. Too often we think about the captains of the ships, the Gates an…

Gates was quite heavily involved in making Microsoft's early products, long before they had '60 to 150 engineers'. In the case of Jobs, the really enduring mystery to me is that despite some seemingly disqualifying personality flaws, he managed to both surround himself with very talented people and get them to do outstanding work together. Once, you could chalk it up to luck but somehow he did it repeatedly.

Joel Spolsky has a good story about Gates and his understanding of engineering.

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev...

Edit: there's a tl;dr on the particular topic of Gates' engineering skills buried in the story (which I'll quote below), but I encourage everyone to read the whole damn thing because that is how you successfully lead engineers.

tl;dr

"It was a good point. Bill Gates was amazingly technical. He understood Variants, and COM objects, and IDispatch and why Automation is different than vtables and why this might lead to dual interfaces. He worried about date functions. He didn’t meddle in software if he trusted the people who were working on it, but you couldn’t bullshit him for a minute because he was a programmer. A real, actual, programmer."

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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These basic designs pretty much stayed the course all the way through OS 9, and some even in OS X. It's gotta be surreal to think something she designed is on millions of devices. Reminds me of someone I met who wrote video drivers for Intel. It's something small you don't think about, a tiny piece that is essential in bringing the whole thing together. Too often we think about the captains of the ships, the Gates an…

> I doubt Elon could design the engine of a rocket. In this case, you're wrong. Elon is actually the lead engineer on at least early SpaceX rockets.

Well, it is true that he gave himself that title.

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gates was quite heavily involved in making Microsoft's early products, long before they had '60 to 150 engineers'. In the case of Jobs, the really enduring mystery to me is that despite some seemingly disqualifying personality flaws, he managed to both surround himself with very talented people and get them to do outstanding work together. Once, you could chalk it up to luck but somehow he did it repeatedly.

Joel Spolsky has a good story about Gates and his understanding of engineering. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev... Edit: there's a tl;dr on the particular topic of Gates' engineering skills buried in the story (which I'll quote below), but I encourage everyone to read the whole damn thing because that is how you successfully lead engineers. tl;dr "It was a good point. Bill Gates was amazi…

A fine read ... a piece that teaches us so much about the human side of things that matter in engineering management.

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gates was quite heavily involved in making Microsoft's early products, long before they had '60 to 150 engineers'. In the case of Jobs, the really enduring mystery to me is that despite some seemingly disqualifying personality flaws, he managed to both surround himself with very talented people and get them to do outstanding work together. Once, you could chalk it up to luck but somehow he did it repeatedly.

Joel Spolsky has a good story about Gates and his understanding of engineering. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev... Edit: there's a tl;dr on the particular topic of Gates' engineering skills buried in the story (which I'll quote below), but I encourage everyone to read the whole damn thing because that is how you successfully lead engineers. tl;dr "It was a good point. Bill Gates was amazi…

That was quite a bit later. Here's a super-short summary of Microsoft's earliest days.

https://www.wired.com/2011/04/0404bill-gates-paul-allen-form...

He definitely became famous as an executive and captain of industry. But he very much started on the hands-on, nerd side of things.

Re: The Story Behind Susan Kare’s Iconic Design Work for Apple

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For the lazy: the symbol (⌘) has apparently been used at Swedish campgrounds and parks for decades. It's used to denote interesting features, both natural and man-made. It was inspired by the way Swedish castles look from above (a central building with a turret at each corner).

> the symbol (⌘) has apparently been used at Swedish campgrounds and parks for decades That's not how I know the sign. The Swedish Transport Agency has a page for this road sign[1]. It says, roughly translated: “The symbol indicates an historic site [or attraction] of national interest. The nature of the historic site is indicated in connection with the symbol.” So, it's probably more commonly used to mark viking age…

> [...] used at Swedish campgrounds and parks for decades. It's used to denote interesting features

They aren't saying its used to denote the campground, rather the presence of a historic site or attraction at the campground.

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