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Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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And water is wet. Israel is at the forefront of it https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/11/in... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-... You mean the chinese are focused on propaganda as much as we are? As much as israel, britain, russia and everyone else? Amazing.

We are talking about A. But forget about A, look at B!!!

It distracts from the core thread topic.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #11

When the NY Times covered the Chinese robotic moon landing, it was in the top 10 stories for more than a week. In the most space-jaded country on the planet. The rating was sustained by constant comments by Chinese studying in the US and burnishing their reps with the Party. You can almost always make Chinese English, an AI program could be trained to do it. I wrote to their ombudsman. Down in a day.

Very interesting. I always get that uncanny valley feeling even on Hacker News, especially when the comments concern China. This would explain a lot.

Or something like a comment thread where half the comments pointing out other governments do propaganda are flagged to hell, like this section.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #10

And water is wet. Israel is at the forefront of it https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/11/in... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-... You mean the chinese are focused on propaganda as much as we are? As much as israel, britain, russia and everyone else? Amazing.

Why is this downvoted? All governments do propaganda, this is a well known fact. One particular interesting thing about this particular case is the scale and the focus, but do we really think other governments don't try? Even companies astroturf.

Isn't the comment itself a distraction, just like the ones in the main post? :)

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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On HN it's not unique to China. Anything negative about India is downvoted into oblivion. You can almost time it to the rising of the sun in India Standard Time. I'm not saying that it's being orchestrated by the Indian government, but it does happen.

This is the distraction the linked study was talking about. I'm not sure if it happens about articles related to India, but since we are on the topic about China's article getting down-voted (anecdotally I have seen multiple times), I think we should focus on that atm.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #7

I have seen the US government doing this a lot. Example, whitewashing the No Gun Ri massacre on Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No_Gun_Ri&diff=185... ). That one is from US Central Command Multi National Security Transition Team Iraq. Also have seen similar edits on Wikipedia from Ft. Benning/WHISC/SOA and so forth.

This is a very typical response in a thread about China.

Please stop comparing it with other nations. China's government and its modus operandi is a completely different ball game. It is not even the same sport.

It only detracts from the discussion. If you would like to discuss US topics, please open a new thread and we are happy to have a conversation.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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This is great. Please, please let this concept enter the general public's mind.

>Please, please let this concept enter the general public's mind. Especially salient because the idea of censorship in the form of bookburning or restricting speech is still way too dominant (especially in American culture). Information overflow and deflection through a sheer barrage of garbage and misinformation seems to be the new (and much more effective) MO.

Oh Dear!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8moePxHpvok

Information/Tragedy buffer overflow attacks basically.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the last remark about Xi Jinping's wife was uncalled for (I'm Taiwanese American).

Yet it is a fact. Not only do trolls seek to degrade and destroy freedom and democracy, they defend a bunch of corrupt morons who's only real ability is to either steal or exploit their own people.

>his stupid uneducated bimbo of a wife

that is most definitely not a fact, it is an opinion, namely your opinion. It's also a pointless and needlessly inflammatory insult that engenders no productive discussion. Would you say the same about the first lady of the US?

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #10

And water is wet. Israel is at the forefront of it https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/11/in... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-... You mean the chinese are focused on propaganda as much as we are? As much as israel, britain, russia and everyone else? Amazing.

Why is this downvoted? All governments do propaganda, this is a well known fact. One particular interesting thing about this particular case is the scale and the focus, but do we really think other governments don't try? Even companies astroturf.

> All governments do propaganda, this is a well known fact....Even companies astroturf.

This paper isn't about that kind of propaganda, where a particular narrative gets pushed. It's about an insidious kind of propaganda where an unrelated or semi-related narrative is pushed to distract from some topic.

> Why is this downvoted?

Probably because it can be interpreted as a similar kind of propaganda to the kind the article describes (e.g. lets get everyone riled up about Israel such that they forget about China). I can see the loose topic-similarity aiding such a goal.

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