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Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by Nr7 » Wed, May 16, 2018, 6:07 AM UTC

Rick-Butler wrote: post #29

icc97 wrote: post #28

I got comfortable on the basic Vim keys using shortcutFoo [0], plus actually diving in to using it full-time. Learning Vim takes full time usage as you need to switch over your muscle memory. I still find that GVim is brilliant for beginners as it is tolerant of using other style shortcuts so you don't burn yourself. Even though you might learn slower you're more likely to progress as it's less frustrating. I don't k…

I felt vim adventures helped me, but then again that's just anecdotal proving your point.

Vim adventures also helped me to get started in Vim. I never finished it but it definitely was useful in learning the basics. I recommend it.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by Tepix » Wed, May 16, 2018, 6:52 AM UTC

If you want to internalise the vi cursor movement keys, play the old unix game "hunt" with your colleagues or classmates.

See http://techtinkering.com/2009/08/11/my-top-10-classic-text-m... (it's at no. 2)

"This is a multi-player games that can be played over a network, or via multiple terminals on one machine. It consists of a top-down view of a maze where you run around trying to find your opponents to kill. There are a number of weapons and you can also play in teams. It is surprisingly fun, a sort of top-down text mode doom.

Originally written by Conrad Huang and Greg Couch in 1979/80."

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by Tepix » Wed, May 16, 2018, 7:54 AM UTC

gerdesj wrote: post #24

Other editors are available. I've never been either old enough (47) or cool enough (-20C) to really give a shit about vi/vim or emacs and co. I merely tolerate them and can do the very basics. I use joe by preference at the console ("boredom" if you like - no real excitement) and live with nano. vi and emacs I merely tolerate because I generally have to look up something. kate's alright - she's a pretty lass (for an…

These editors (and some other ones, but not "joe" or "nano") are very powerful tools. It pays off to learn one well.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by Tepix » Wed, May 16, 2018, 7:55 AM UTC

badminton1 wrote: post #9

Krasnol wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not nano where all your questions are answered on the lower part of the screen?

nano is not a bad editor. It has a very straightforward learning curve but it is less featured and extensible. kakoune has more features and high quality plug-ins than nano. kakoune also interoperates better with tmux.

It's not bad but it's not powerful either.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by testcross » Wed, May 16, 2018, 8:01 AM UTC

Those games are always for vim. But I would love to have something like this with emacs using all the transposition commands or what is available from paredit/smartparens.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by therein » Wed, May 16, 2018, 8:41 AM UTC

Nr7 wrote: post #41

Rick-Butler wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I felt vim adventures helped me, but then again that's just anecdotal proving your point.

Vim adventures also helped me to get started in Vim. I never finished it but it definitely was useful in learning the basics. I recommend it.

Exactly same here. I wanted to chime in because it sounded like it would help supplant the anecdotal evidence.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by Legogris » Wed, May 16, 2018, 8:41 AM UTC

jgtrosh wrote: post #2

> Please do not confuse PacMan with pacman (the arch Linux package manager). PacMan is a classic, popular arcade game released in the 1980s. This is the most wonderful praise one could give to Arch.

It's funny how they make a clear distinction based on capitalization but fail to capitalize Arch Linux.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by edf13 » Wed, May 16, 2018, 9:59 AM UTC

I'm pretty old... when I started they taught Cobol at college... But why can't we just use nano?

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by boffinism » Wed, May 16, 2018, 10:38 AM UTC

> There are two modes

> n – normal mode. > h – hard mode.

> The default mode is h, which is hard

That's an interesting definition of 'normal', then.

Re: A CLI game to learn Vim

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Post by mettamage » Wed, May 16, 2018, 10:55 AM UTC

icc97 wrote: post #28

I got comfortable on the basic Vim keys using shortcutFoo [0], plus actually diving in to using it full-time. Learning Vim takes full time usage as you need to switch over your muscle memory. I still find that GVim is brilliant for beginners as it is tolerant of using other style shortcuts so you don't burn yourself. Even though you might learn slower you're more likely to progress as it's less frustrating. I don't k…

I'm going to try that! I wonder though, who here didn't have success with vimtutor? I had success learning the basics of vim with vimtutor.