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DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

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Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#41

Good for them! They beat AWS to it. Amazon's managed Kubernetes service is in the preview stage but should also be launched soon. How do people like Kubernetes as a production ready solution to deploy containers? I've been using Docker for a while now, just starting to mess with k8s.

I resisted Kubernetes for a long time, but now that I've started using it, I think it's definitely the way to go.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#42

Pricing is key. Right now I spin up GCE based clusters as the head and version migration is free and I only pay for 2 non-preemptible adequate nodes. The rest scale and preempt somewhat cheaply as needed.

Eddie from DigitalOcean here. You'll only need to pay for your worker nodes and we'll handle upgrades for you.

Any implementation details? I would absolutely like my nodes distributed not just across different machines but also different racks. This will be key to having k8s reliability. Especially for the master nodes and wherever I've etcd running.

If my k8s goes down then it needs to be because the entire datacenter is down not a machine or a rack.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#43

@Linode -- you guys seeing this ? Don't make me migrate away after 2 years.

Linode user since 2009 here. Their support and network are rock solid [1].

I really hope they step up their game, but I won't be moving away anytime soon.

[1] The only major issue I had was a massive DDOS that took down their Atlanta data center around Christmas, couple of years ago.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#44
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Linode user for the last 10+ years here, I'm migrating some sites to DO after checking it out recently(again), the UI is better and it seems DO innovates faster these days, and the stability might have improved too(need more time to verify this). Linode has been solid for me, only one bad hardware crash in the last 10+ years, but DO has more functions, good UI, larger disk,etc. I am trying it again.

DO support has gone majorly downhill (I have a comment about this that goes into it) in the last year or two with more issues cropping up here and there on hypervisors that go unattended for absolutely no reason. I still haven't found a good alternative but I'm looking.

Linode's support has been excellent though I rarely needed that. for me it's all resolved on their irc channel really quickly.

DO support is of concern but I never used that yet. I hope Linode can match up DO's offering(pricing and features) then I will likely stay.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#45
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If you enjoy having hypervisors disappear for 12 hours without notice, go ahead. Until then, I'd say Linode is your better bet :). EDIT: A little more information, I had two VMs go offline abruptly around 1am one night. It took 3 hours for Digital Ocean to even acknowledge a problem existed (I had opened a ticket), and that was only after I started poking their twitter account. It was at least 12 hours before they br…

I'm actually looking at migrating away from Digital Ocean. I had a recent incident that took over a week to solve with 48+ hours between tickets where support wasn't even reading the previous ticket. They claimed that someone looked at the hypervisor the system was on and found nothing, but as soon as that occurred my issue was resolved. One of the worst support experiences I've ever had where I was asked for the sam…

Hey gravyboat - I'm Zach, Director of Support here at DigitalOcean. I'm very sorry that we didn't provide helpful or timely support. This certainly isn't the type of experience that's typical, and definitely not what we design for.

Can you do me a favor and shoot me an email so that I can investigate further? zach@digitalocean.com

Please see this as my personal commitment to our entire userbase that I'm happy to hear from you as well if your experience was not perfect.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#47
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I'm actually looking at migrating away from Digital Ocean. I had a recent incident that took over a week to solve with 48+ hours between tickets where support wasn't even reading the previous ticket. They claimed that someone looked at the hypervisor the system was on and found nothing, but as soon as that occurred my issue was resolved. One of the worst support experiences I've ever had where I was asked for the sam…

And the new support system is utterly useless Javascript SPA that breaks if you refresh, or use back buttons, and is just a terrible experience to use. I get mostly NOOP responses to my tickets these days. Given how complicated Kubernetes can be, I'm terrified to see how they'll handle support for when they hit some of the more difficult problems.

Hi Operyl - I appreciate your candid feedback on this.

As with anyone else, please feel free to email me directly if you want to follow up: zach@digitalocean.com

Regarding the actual system, its functionality, etc, we are planning an update. If there's anything that you want us to include in the system, or support systems that you enjoy using, please let me know.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#48

Too bad they didn't list the pricing, it would be nice to know how much it will cost, once released.

Hey KenCochrane, I’m the Product Manager on this product at DigitalOcean. VonGuard is right, you only pay for the worker nodes (based on our Droplet pricing, there’s no premium) and we take care of the master. Our standard pricing lives here: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Right now, GKE charges $18/month for a load balancer on top of node costs, which is costly for small scale/personal projects. Will DigitalOcean have anything similar?

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#49
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And the new support system is utterly useless Javascript SPA that breaks if you refresh, or use back buttons, and is just a terrible experience to use. I get mostly NOOP responses to my tickets these days. Given how complicated Kubernetes can be, I'm terrified to see how they'll handle support for when they hit some of the more difficult problems.

Hi Operyl - I appreciate your candid feedback on this. As with anyone else, please feel free to email me directly if you want to follow up: zach@digitalocean.com Regarding the actual system, its functionality, etc, we are planning an update. If there's anything that you want us to include in the system, or support systems that you enjoy using, please let me know.

Honestly, I miss the simple support system Digital Ocean had when it first launched, built straight into the panel, instead of another buggy service with tons of javascript. Less is more. The tier1 support needs much more training and information to effectively handle support as well.

Re: DigitalOcean Introduces Kubernetes Product

#50

I have some questions, mainly around networking and the like. Is there somebody from DO that I can get in touch with directly? Thanks.

Second on the network. My concern is around inter-node traffic and if it's segmented or like their current private networking.
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