As much as I love the daily show (and the article was nice too), this does not belong on HN.
The Jon Stewart Decade
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Re: The Jon Stewart Decade
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Here's a citation: basically everything Stewart has said about beck is a flat out lie. Of course, Stewart is a socialist and to them, beck must be a theocrat and so they portray him as such, but realitybis, he believes in freedom of religion, not theocracy. He supports individual rights, unlike Jon stewart. So Stewart makes stuff up about, selectively edits things out of contexts, and makes fun of him. The liberals w…
I've watched his show and don't see any divergence between Jon's representations and Beck's general manner. Beck is a political comedian, and political comedians get fun poked at them by other political comedians.
Of course because your understanding of becks general manner comes from the daily show. That's the waht's brilliant about this form of political propaganda- it makes you think your engaging in critical thinking awhile spoon feeding falsehoods to you, to the point that you would sincerely judge the accuracy of the show solely on your understanding derived from the show! You think yore well informed, but you don't even realize how little you actually know.
I'm not saying you havent seen these same falsehoods from other propaganda outlets like huffington post, talking points memo, and daily kaos, etc.
If you knew anything about beck you'd know that his portrayal on the daily show is profoundly dishonest. This is how I can speak conclusively because it is not even a shade of grey.
Elsewhere you assert that you would hold stewart accountable, but here you don't even know enough about beck to know that you're being told lies.
The sad truth is, for so many 20 something, it is a news show and you don't even realize it.
Re: The Jon Stewart Decade
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Are you referring to the interview with Dan Roodt? Because if he wasn't in on the joke or was bothered by it, you'd expect to see some mention of the interview on his blog: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22daily%20show%22%20site:htt...
I am no fan of Roodt, but the Daily Show did its best to misrepresent his nuanced view. Here is a really bad translation on his website (praag.co.za): http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&h...
And it was still funny.
Everyone I know is fully aware of how some groups are treated in SA. I think this is the disconnect: You see TDS as a news source, and are worried that its viewers take it as news. But they don't.
We watch it to be entertained. We're already well-informed on what they're joking about.
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I've watched his show and don't see any divergence between Jon's representations and Beck's general manner. Beck is a political comedian, and political comedians get fun poked at them by other political comedians.
Of course because your understanding of becks general manner comes from the daily show. That's the waht's brilliant about this form of political propaganda- it makes you think your engaging in critical thinking awhile spoon feeding falsehoods to you, to the point that you would sincerely judge the accuracy of the show solely on your understanding derived from the show! You think yore well informed, but you don't even…
"Of course because your understanding of becks general manner comes from the daily show."
Nope. I watched him on HLN, then for a while on Fox.
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I've watched his show and don't see any divergence between Jon's representations and Beck's general manner. Beck is a political comedian, and political comedians get fun poked at them by other political comedians.
Of course because your understanding of becks general manner comes from the daily show. That's the waht's brilliant about this form of political propaganda- it makes you think your engaging in critical thinking awhile spoon feeding falsehoods to you, to the point that you would sincerely judge the accuracy of the show solely on your understanding derived from the show! You think yore well informed, but you don't even…
That's sure a big rude assumption (that if you think Stewart is accurate, you must not know anything about Glenn Beck.) I watch Beck every once in a while and I thought Stewart's portrayal of him nailed it.
You should start citing specific things you take issue with.
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#46As much as I love the daily show (and the article was nice too), this does not belong on HN.
"On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. "
I found the article to be very interesting, and apparently so did many others. Not everything on here needs to be 100% about startups, programming, or business.
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> The whole fucking video pisses me off – it is such a complex subject which he is making light of (and painting a wrong picture). WTF? But yeah, let’s make fun of extremely complex and delicate subjects because our viewers will laugh! That's called comedy. Just like a caricature exaggerates features of a person to look funny, comedy often exaggerates or simplifies complex situations for laughs. (my god I can't belie…
Caricature exaggerates an aspect that exists for comedic effect. Stewart fabricates lies to denigrate political opponents for comedic effect. One is honest,the othervis dishonest.
Sorry to all reddit here but whooosh.
Re: The Jon Stewart Decade
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I've watched his show and don't see any divergence between Jon's representations and Beck's general manner. Beck is a political comedian, and political comedians get fun poked at them by other political comedians.
Of course because your understanding of becks general manner comes from the daily show. That's the waht's brilliant about this form of political propaganda- it makes you think your engaging in critical thinking awhile spoon feeding falsehoods to you, to the point that you would sincerely judge the accuracy of the show solely on your understanding derived from the show! You think yore well informed, but you don't even…
Any time you start off a point by saying "Of course, Stewart is a socialist ....." and then go on to call blogs propaganda outlets, I 100% tune out your opinion. If you are trying to call out someone else as being uninformed, you probably should cut out the double speak before trying to make your point if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who is not indoctrinated into that school of thought.
Guess what, I think socialism is an interesting concept, not the boogeyman! And I have been a registered big L Libertarian from before Ron Paul and Glenn Beck were even known! I ran as a libertarian candidate once, and I still don't use socialist as a degrogatory adjective like you clearly have. Get a grip on reality.
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We're not going to get anywhere with dueling anecdotes. And you're referencing things I don't recall, and I've been watching TDS for years. "But I guess that this is just how real journalism fades. Papers become bankrupt whilst people read online “news sources” such as Huffington Post or Alternet. News networks like CNN become Twitter Crazy and airs shows like The Daily Show." Journalism is doing fine. You're just lo…
Here's a citation: basically everything Stewart has said about beck is a flat out lie. Of course, Stewart is a socialist and to them, beck must be a theocrat and so they portray him as such, but realitybis, he believes in freedom of religion, not theocracy. He supports individual rights, unlike Jon stewart. So Stewart makes stuff up about, selectively edits things out of contexts, and makes fun of him. The liberals w…
Have you ever watched an entire episode of Beck?
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Did you seriously just compare The Daily Show to Nazi Propaganda films? (And there's no way I accept that it's a socialist hate campaign... that's straight out of Glenn Beck rhetoric land).
Absolutely, and I say this as one who studied many semesters in college the films of Germany, Nazi, pre-Nazi and post Nazi. Of course you won't accept it as a socialist hate campaign. Do you think that Germans are genetically predisposed to fascism? Do you think they are weak or inferior to Americans in some way? How is it, do you suppose, that they let Nazis take power, and commit such massive crimes?
Why does socialism == hate campaign? What is the association between them?
There is a huge difference between a Democrat/liberal person and a socialist, and a huge difference between socialists and facists, and all of them are short of being Nazis.
Anyone standing on the right, painting everyone to their left as socialist Nazis trying to destroy America are completely out of touch.