4.5M already.
Correct, they updated it 40 minutes ago.
Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
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#42Russia is taking a page out of the China internet playbook. Next it will build out it's own great firewall and slowly unblock services after it gain's control.
There the govt builds the controls. Here Twitter, YouTube and Facebook do. No big difference in my book. In terms of outcomes, only clowns get propped up either way.
How does Twitter YouTube etc block you from accessing the internet?
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#43Hm, does that mean other IMs gave their encryption keys to Russian government? Also could someone from Russia confirm telegram/AWS are blocked?
Maybe they just don't have enough balls to go after the biggest ones (WhatsApp and Viber). Plus, other IMs don't have public channels anyone can subscribe to. IIRC that was the original problem, "extremist" channels. Why did they ask for encryption keys instead of blocking channels? Who knows lol. Telegram still works without (manually adding) proxies :D EC2 Ireland (at least the subnets where my servers are) also wo…
> other IMs don't have public channels anyone can subscribe to
snap?
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#44The first round of the fight is clearly won by telegram - roscomnadzor is perceived as a lumbering and inept gorilla whose actions harm innocent bystanders while telegram continues to work almost perfectly.
Next we will see how effective the deletion of the telegram app from the Russian app stores will be. Because of the centralized nature of the stores telegram can’t do much with it (they can try publishing clones of the client under unaffiliated entities, but apple and google can easily ban those too). Also it is rumored that the client uses push notifications to deliver proxy settings to devices and these also can be easily blocked by the store owners.
Interesting times.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whether they respond with process and patience or not, I’m hard pressed to think of powerful states that abide “f*ck yourself” once they’ve started to think national interest/security.
> they’ve started to think national interest/security More like Putin's interest/security.
Finally! As a Russian who immigrated recently I’m endlessly tired of Russia this, Russia that. There is no Russia. There is Putin and Putin only.
Re: Russia Bans 1.8M Amazon and Google IPs in Attempt to Block Telegram
#46The first round of the fight is clearly won by telegram - roscomnadzor is perceived as a lumbering and inept gorilla whose actions harm innocent bystanders while telegram continues to work almost perfectly. Next we will see how effective the deletion of the telegram app from the Russian app stores will be. Because of the centralized nature of the stores telegram can’t do much with it (they can try publishing clones o…
Not much rumor there, it's right in the spec: https://core.telegram.org/api/push-updates#service-notificat...
It's also actually pretty clever.
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#48Hm, does that mean other IMs gave their encryption keys to Russian government? Also could someone from Russia confirm telegram/AWS are blocked?
Hello I’m from Russia. And yes, local authorities started blocking telegram IPs. It doesn’t work without proxy/vpn.
Their DPI is so dumb that it can be easily bypassed just by editing `Host` to `HOst` in http header. BTW ipv6 adresses are not blocked.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not much. We need mesh networks across every device - routers, smartphones, long distance repeaters, etc - ASAP to avoid it.
Sorry, it will not work. If your government can pass laws to allow themselves to block any Internet services, it may as well go ahead pass laws to prevent people from circumventing that block. So, the only defense you have, is to prevent your government from issuing the first law.
Probably something like Fidonet model could be sustainable in this case.
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#50The first round of the fight is clearly won by telegram - roscomnadzor is perceived as a lumbering and inept gorilla whose actions harm innocent bystanders while telegram continues to work almost perfectly. Next we will see how effective the deletion of the telegram app from the Russian app stores will be. Because of the centralized nature of the stores telegram can’t do much with it (they can try publishing clones o…
Not much rumor there, it's right in the spec: https://core.telegram.org/api/push-updates#service-notificat... It's also actually pretty clever.
Thanks, good to know. And to open that page I had to use a vpn!