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Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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It's a bit annoying when half the questions are basically 'how does Facebook work?'. Tech is still magic to most of the people asking the questions.

I can't believe a senator asked "How does Facebook make money." I thought it was a rhetorical question at first but the senator was like "Oh!" when Zuck said "Ads."

We've had a US Representative that worried about the island of Guam tipping over because the Navy added personnel to the island, so I'm not often surprised.

This actually points to a real failure of lobbying by the tech industry. Part of lobbying is to inform the lobbying target and make them look reasonable knowledgeable on camera. Ignorance is your problem, stupidity can be masked a bit.

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a semantic nit pick on PII (personally identifiable information)... Name is PII, location at a high enough resolution is PII. The rest are metadata about an individual but not PII. Knowing someone is a straight male doesn't tell you enough to identify a person. This is relevant because GDPR (and other things) special case PII.

Thank you for the correction. Also absent from the discourse is how much Facebook uses inferences from behavioral data in building user profiles. For example, let's say that I have not told Facebook my sexual orientation. Do they attempt to infer that missing information from what content I view, for how long and how frequently? Is such data shared with 3rd parties? Is it used in ad targeting?

That would be interesting to know.

I'm probably in the extreme minority but I don't see anything wrong with them selling data that people voluntarily give them (no one is forced to use FB -- I assume they'll be monetizing 100% of the information I give them), but I would see an ethical issue with selling access to individuals based on inferred data; to the person buying it that is. If I want to advertise to 25 year old straight females, I'd want that profile to be built on data that was actually given to FB and not on "we kinda think this person matches that profile but we're going to tell you you're 100% reaching this demographic".

I don't know enough about FB's ad model to know whether they're doing this type of false advertising of their own product though.

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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I'd like to SHOUT OUT TED CRUZ for complaining about the real issues: Facebook censoring Chick Fil A. Not kidding.

You mean whining by ted cruz. That was literally all he ever did. Also didn't he force a bunch of college students to attend his doomed presidential campaign announcement and ask for their cell numbers? https://youtu.be/rpzgXVA8eh0

I apologize if you misconstrued my enthusiasm for Ted Cruz's idiotic line of questions as supportive. It was not.

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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post #31

It's very painful to listen to the majority of our elected officials ask technical questions.

Eh, they're just like any other non-techie. It's us in the minority, not the other way around. Elected officials are usually experts in law, or at least psychology ;-)

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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The senators asking the questions are completely clueless. EU/GDPR will properly deal with FB.

Every single congressional hearing is like this. They just sit there and chastise the CEO... It's a PR stunt, public spectacle kinda thing. All the real work is done by lobbyist in closed door meetings.

For a lot of industries there is actual knowledge or a subject expert on the staff. That is why a lot of folks actually have phone numbers for certain staff of a Senator / Rep.

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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It's a bit annoying when half the questions are basically 'how does Facebook work?'. Tech is still magic to most of the people asking the questions.

When the dude with pink hair was talking to the UK govt people it was like me explaining to my grand parents how the internet works. Really cringe.

Re: Zuck's live grilling on Facebook Live

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post #33

It's a bit annoying when half the questions are basically 'how does Facebook work?'. Tech is still magic to most of the people asking the questions.

I can't believe a senator asked "How does Facebook make money." I thought it was a rhetorical question at first but the senator was like "Oh!" when Zuck said "Ads."

It was a fantastic question.

It’s a public exposition; getting and decomposing/de-spinning fundamental answers is kind of the whole point.

Most Americans do not even think about thinking about how Facebook makes money, but use it every single day.

zucc’s shit-eating smile was my favorite part of the whole thing.

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