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In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Good for him that he isn't black in today's America.

or rather, good for him he isn't poor? or would a black Harvard student have been prosecuted for this crime?

Being poor is probably what counts the most but being black woldn't help either.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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What I don't understand is how the important leaders and influencers of the world, like Obama, or Bill Gates, or others, are not ashamed to show themselves near Zuckerberg. He started the whole Facebook with a theft from the Winklevoss brothers. That whole business is the fruit of theft. Yeah, he was young and stupid, but how many of you even considered doing such a thing to your employer? Yeah, he built a huge busin…

That would be a fun position for Obama to take; would he spurn Zuckerberg before or after giving Kissinger the Distinguished Public Service Award?

I rail against Facebook, and think it's a dangerous system, but Zuckerberg is a damn saint compared to many of the people Obama and Bill Gates have shown themselves with. And the two are themselves far from .

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Facebook’s response to this story is revealing: > "We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources who seek to rewrite Facebook’s early history or embarrass Mark Zuckerberg with dated allegations. The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in t…

Yeah this nice corporate PR

> We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources

"We're not denying it though. It is true. If they were false and we could debate and win the debate, we would"

> The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in the lives of over 400

> [...] instead focus on how many users we have

Even more, it is interesting what they are implying here. If you can get people to give you their data and build a company on it, it somehow means you all of the sudden acquire a better personality, increased morality and are absolved of all the stupid things you said or did before.

Now sure, people do and say stupid stuff when they are teenagers. I've done it. It depends when and what was done and at what age, what happened before and after. I can see being forgiving some thing up until the early 20s. People are still developing and personality could change I suppose. Though when it comes to his "dumb fucks" comment, I give him less of a pass of being a "teenager" because he was 26 already. Additionally, if these were just isolated incidents and everything before and after pointed to him taken privacy seriously but the whole company is built on the opposite of that.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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What I don't understand is how the important leaders and influencers of the world, like Obama, or Bill Gates, or others, are not ashamed to show themselves near Zuckerberg. He started the whole Facebook with a theft from the Winklevoss brothers. That whole business is the fruit of theft. Yeah, he was young and stupid, but how many of you even considered doing such a thing to your employer? Yeah, he built a huge busin…

That would be a fun position for Obama to take; would he spurn Zuckerberg before or after giving Kissinger the Distinguished Public Service Award? I rail against Facebook, and think it's a dangerous system, but Zuckerberg is a damn saint compared to many of the people Obama and Bill Gates have shown themselves with. And the two are themselves far from .

You are comparing very different things. While I agree a lot of bad people are doing bad things out there, not many if any have the reach and control Zuckerberg does. I wonder if there is a resolution where Facebook can be fixed without government regulations that would likely have adverse effects on the internet at large. I don't even use Facebook and yet I am vulnerable as they doubtless have a complete profile on me based on tracking pixels and people with whom I socialize having accounts with them.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Unrelated, but this reminded me of my very first real, salary developer job where I added logging to the web application. I remember logging failed password attempts specifically; I didn't give a second thought to simply logging the values of all form fields, seemed easiest at the time in case the developer changed the names of the fields.

It wasn't until a review by one of the senior devs that saw passwords in the log files - and with eyebrows raised asked "wth are you doing" - that it dawned on me, "oops". I'm glad that never made it out to production.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Facebook’s response to this story is revealing: > "We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources who seek to rewrite Facebook’s early history or embarrass Mark Zuckerberg with dated allegations. The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in t…

They're playing the status game. "Rewrite history" and "dated allegations" serve mostly to slander whoever made those claims. Then they raise Zuckerberg's status by pointing out his achievements.

They're effectively saying the accusation isn't valid because Zuckerberg is nobility and the accusers are not.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Some people get life in prison for things they do at 19.

If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the c…

> Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone.

You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death.

The involved law and its application are interesting interpretations of the idea of justice. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-...)

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