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Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Smokescreen. I like Newmark more than I like newspaper companies, too. And I know craigslist could be making hundreds of millions of dollars if it weren't for their pesky ethics. But I don't believe for a second that this recent drama is related to craigslist's impact on the news business. The formula here is simple: the news media (and political candidates) likes eyeballs. Eyeballs like stories about sex. It would b…

Don't underestimate the small-mindedness of the news media. Why was the iPad over all of their covers? Because they think it's their salvation. Yeah, Jobs is good at PR, and yeah, it's a reasonable cover story, but why was it the cover story? Why is craigslist the trumped up bogus sex scandal?

Because craigslist has revolutionized both licit and illicit classified ads, making them the most important advertising medium for the sex industry as well as babysitters, day laborers, and people with washing machines to sell?

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, the 1st, 2nd and purported 3rd wave feminists all have different takes on gender roles and society. But given what i know about the 1st wave feminists and the suffragettes, i'm surprised to hear tell that there was involvement that would be worth mentioning (in the sense of the entire movement) any more than you could claim that all republicans are pro-life, or that all democrats are pro-business.

Well, it wasn't everyone , but it was a large enough segment of the movement to be worth mentioning, I think, including many of the prominent leaders: Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Carrie Chapman Catt, Frances Willard, etc. Many organizations overlapped, as well; for example, the Women's Christian Temperance Union was heavily involved in suffrage organizing after Willard became its president.

Cool, the more you know!

Thanks :)

Re: Jeff Jarvis on the Real Reason the Media is Going After Craig Newmark

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Smokescreen. I like Newmark more than I like newspaper companies, too. And I know craigslist could be making hundreds of millions of dollars if it weren't for their pesky ethics. But I don't believe for a second that this recent drama is related to craigslist's impact on the news business. The formula here is simple: the news media (and political candidates) likes eyeballs. Eyeballs like stories about sex. It would b…

>Without those ads, their service isn't one iota worse for the vast majority of their users who aren't in contact with the sex trade. The adult services section of craiglist is practically a political statement.

I'm not sure... I mean, would San Francisco be San Francisco without Folsom St? I mean, maybe, I guess?

I mean, I think the weirdness we see in San Francisco goes along with the innovative culture we have here.

Now, is the same true of weird sex ads on craigslist and the rest of craigslist? I've really got no evidence either way, but I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, either.

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