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Prepared for Bumps, the Met Starts Charging Non-New Yorkers

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Re: Prepared for Bumps, the Met Starts Charging Non-New Yorkers

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Post by paxy »

kolchinski wrote: post #32

I noticed this from the article: The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years... Which made me think of something else I've encountered, which is that the percentage of people who respond to phone polls has plummeted over a similar time frame - http://www.pewresearch.org/2017/05/15/what-low-response-rate... I wonder if these trends are re…

I think it's because more casual and lower income demographics have started visiting museums in that time period.

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Post by user5994461 »

paxy wrote: post #41
kolchinski wrote: post #32

I noticed this from the article: The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years... Which made me think of something else I've encountered, which is that the percentage of people who respond to phone polls has plummeted over a similar time frame - http://www.pewresearch.org/2017/05/15/what-low-response-rate... I wonder if these trends are re…

I think it's because more casual and lower income demographics have started visiting museums in that time period.

The disposable income went down for the vast majority of the population. Don't look further.

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

a_t48 wrote: post #33
DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #31

So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount). Is such discrimitory pricing legal?

Yes. There are a bunch of places in SF that give discounts if you are a local.

I'm not sure if that's the same as it being legal. I'd be curious to know of any case law on the matter.

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Post by greglindahl »

drb91 wrote: post #19
greglindahl wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the past, they would happily have taken your $100 donation. I suspect that's still true.

Sure! Not my point though--just scoffing at the idea that $25 is at all too high for the experience. I would also strongly support a sliding scale, though how that would work I have no idea.

They had a sliding scale already.

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Post by ggg9990 »

ghaff wrote: post #26
ggg9990 wrote: post #25

No problem with this, but then art donations to the museum should not be federally tax deductible. Donations should be tax deductible only if they benefit the entire tax base — if the Met only offers free admission to New Yorkers, billionaires should only be able to deduct their New York taxes when they donate Michelangelos.

There is absolutely no requirement that tax exempt organizations can't charge admission fees, membership fees, etc.

There isn’t now, but there should be.

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Post by luckydata »

filereaper wrote: post #37
HorizonXP wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I first went to Paris in 2014, and I experienced the same thing. Throngs of people surrounding the Mona Lisa. I was with family that wasn't very receptive to the Louvre experience, so we pretty much "saw the Mona Lisa and got the f* out". I'm heading back to Paris next month with just my wife, and I plan on spending at least 2 days in the Louvre. I wouldn't say that people rui…

The opposite of that can be equally irritating. Take for instance the Galleria Borghese in Rome which only allows 500 visitors in pre-determined slots. If you miss your slot or everything is filled out during your trip, you'll miss out like we did. What I haven't figured out is why museums like the Louvre need to close for the night, its art work. Why not leave it open all night long and shutdown for a few days for m…

Mostly because people like to sleep and France has unions.

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Post by luckydata »

ardit33 wrote: post #27
bradleyjg wrote: post #14

I don't have a problem with the general concept. Tourists spend a lot of money coming to visit NYC in no small part because of attractions like the Met. Why should the airlines, hotels, restaurants, bars and so on get some of that but not the actual attraction itself? That said, as I understand significant mismanagement and scope creep have lead to the financial shortfall that inspired this pricing change. I worry th…

The Met was build on a city property/building, and since the 1870 its mission has been to provide art and culture free of charge. Should the Met charge us residents but out of state visitors? eg. people that just live across Hudson (NJ)? How about, lets say the visiting parents of somebody that lives in NYC? How about people that lived here and moved away at some point. On the other hand, the Met has no alliance for…

I think it's pretty simple: do you have a driver license or ID that says "New York State"? Free. You don't? Pay.

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Post by sundaeofshock »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #31

So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount). Is such discrimitory pricing legal?

I would suspect yes. Almost every college and university in the US has higher rates for non-state residents.

Also important to note that this is not based on nationality; it is based on state of residence. This higher fee applies to residents of the other 49 US states, as well as international visitors.

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Post by Gargoyle »

beezle wrote: post #3

25 bucks is pretty rich for just kicking around in a museum for a little while. Understand they need more funding but think they would do better with a lower price that doesn't result in turn aways (or never shows). And certainly taking a $20 out of your wallet just hurts less psychologically than having to fish out another bill as well.

The de Young in San Francisco is $26 weekdays and $29 weekends, and while it's a fine museum, it's not the Met.

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Post by HorizonXP »

filereaper wrote: post #37
HorizonXP wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I first went to Paris in 2014, and I experienced the same thing. Throngs of people surrounding the Mona Lisa. I was with family that wasn't very receptive to the Louvre experience, so we pretty much "saw the Mona Lisa and got the f* out". I'm heading back to Paris next month with just my wife, and I plan on spending at least 2 days in the Louvre. I wouldn't say that people rui…

The opposite of that can be equally irritating. Take for instance the Galleria Borghese in Rome which only allows 500 visitors in pre-determined slots. If you miss your slot or everything is filled out during your trip, you'll miss out like we did. What I haven't figured out is why museums like the Louvre need to close for the night, its art work. Why not leave it open all night long and shutdown for a few days for m…

Funny you mention that. I surprised my wife with a proposal in the gardens just outside there, after her and her sister visited the Galleria. Also pretty sure her cousin dated the Borghese prince who was on The Bachelor.
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