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So we've gone from IRC which worked perfectly fine to a billion dollar business just to port that software back to the terminal, where we started out to begin with I don't understand this world any more
Oh c'mon. Slack absolutely destroys IRC in terms of usability. And that's what ends up counting in the end.
So we've gone from IRC which worked perfectly fine to a billion dollar business just to port that software back to the terminal, where we started out to begin with I don't understand this world any more
Well then everyone should feel stupid for not realizing you could make a billion dollars creating a sane sign-up and account management system for IRC.
Why do I have to sign up for different Slack organizations and have a different password for each one?
Why can't I private message someone on Slack with just a username?
I think Discord does this much better.
I use this personally. Its great. Hides all the cruft that people post in slack as text. I've been working on trying to extend it on the side. A chat client should not be taking over 1GB of RAM
how is it taking up that much data? I'm at 550mbs with 6 very active teams and while on voice chat. Dropped out of voice chat I'm at 340mb. Each team has 10-20 channels. I also use Discord which uses Electron and with it, I'm on 8 separate active servers with anywhere from 10-30 channels. This sits at 115mb without an issue. Can you tell me where these electron metrics come from where people have slack take up 1gb or…
I miss the days where people recognized that using using 20MB of RAM for a trivial task is obscene. (Great tool, much better than the awful official client, but 20MB is actually a lot of RAM.)
So we've gone from IRC which worked perfectly fine to a billion dollar business just to port that software back to the terminal, where we started out to begin with I don't understand this world any more
Well then everyone should feel stupid for not realizing you could make a billion dollars creating a sane sign-up and account management system for IRC.
About the only thing IRC has going for it is decentralization, and that's not very valuable in the market it seems.
Seriously. IRC has had 30 years to get with the times. It's stagnated and been lapped by its competitors, and the efforts to improve it didn't properly start until Slack and friends simultaneously re-cooked and ate everyone's lunch and dinner.
Now I want a mattermost version of this; the mattermost native client for linux is so terrible as to be nigh unusable (I need to restart it every 24-72 hours as it just hangs regularly).
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Oh c'mon. Slack absolutely destroys IRC in terms of usability. And that's what ends up counting in the end.
Which usability features are they? The 3 GB of RAM usage, the battery-draining, or the culture of “always-on” availability and interruptions?
So we've gone from IRC which worked perfectly fine to a billion dollar business just to port that software back to the terminal, where we started out to begin with I don't understand this world any more
Oh c'mon. Slack absolutely destroys IRC in terms of usability. And that's what ends up counting in the end.
- Huge, rigid, unskinnable UI. - Difficult, multi-step access to configurations and settings. - No OS integration therefore no desktop automation.
I probably should have stuck with Hipchat, but I jumped on the Slack bandwagon along with everyone else.
So we've gone from IRC which worked perfectly fine to a billion dollar business just to port that software back to the terminal, where we started out to begin with I don't understand this world any more
I have been lurking on a few IRC channels due to my work on http://www.oilshell.org/ .
Problems I noticed:
- The lack of conversations/threading is really annoying. Most worthwhile IRC channels have more than one conversation going on at once. Not only do you have to untangle who's talking to who, there's no way to know where the beginning of a conversation is. I have to read messages backward to find the beginning .
- By default there seems to be a lot of leave/join spam. I used IRC for a year before turning this off and it vastly improved my experience.
- I think most clients don't save anything by default. When I reboot my computer and don't log in again, I miss messages.
- Having to use pastebins for code is annoying.
I'm sure that someone will respond with how you can solve all these problems with a certain IRC client. But I don't want to do that. I'm not technically unsophisticated -- I write software in 5+ languages and I know all about Unix and networking. I just don't want to spend my mental energy on my chat client -- I have tons of other projects to spend it on.
So I only use IRC when necessary; I use e-mail otherwise (through GMail.)
Of course, I also don't use Slack. But from what I hear it solves some of these problems.