Please bazel, buck or pants?
Since Bazel is a version of the thing everybody is copying (Google’s internal build system Blaze) I would say Bazel is most likely the best of the bunch.
I’ve used Buck; it’s slow. I haven’t tried Pants.
Please – A Cross-Language Build System
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Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#42Apologies in advance for shitting on this, but PLEASE STOP BUILDING BUILD SYSTEMS. We already have a serious incompatibility problem with projects using autotools vs CMake vs Meson vs gyp vs Boost.Build vs SCons vs BUCK vs... and now we throw Please onto the pile. It sucks when you find a smallish library and discover it uses an esoteric build system whose dependencies dwarf the library themselves (cough Yoga). The O…
> Relevant: http://www.rojtberg.net/1481/do-not-use-meson/
Meson is fantastic.
Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#43Apologies in advance for shitting on this, but PLEASE STOP BUILDING BUILD SYSTEMS. We already have a serious incompatibility problem with projects using autotools vs CMake vs Meson vs gyp vs Boost.Build vs SCons vs BUCK vs... and now we throw Please onto the pile. It sucks when you find a smallish library and discover it uses an esoteric build system whose dependencies dwarf the library themselves (cough Yoga). The O…
PRs welcome This is awful demanding. Not entirely unexpected in tech tho “Why don’t others fix my frustration in open source projects!” they shout with no hint of irony
The FAQ basically says Windows can be supported, but only if the community manages it.
Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#44Apologies in advance for shitting on this, but PLEASE STOP BUILDING BUILD SYSTEMS. We already have a serious incompatibility problem with projects using autotools vs CMake vs Meson vs gyp vs Boost.Build vs SCons vs BUCK vs... and now we throw Please onto the pile. It sucks when you find a smallish library and discover it uses an esoteric build system whose dependencies dwarf the library themselves (cough Yoga). The O…
PRs welcome This is awful demanding. Not entirely unexpected in tech tho “Why don’t others fix my frustration in open source projects!” they shout with no hint of irony
Please don't make such low-effort, insinuating, cliche comments on Hacker News. It makes the reading experience very poor.
Consider that the parent comment author might already be making pull requests to the projects of his interest. The snarky "PRs welcome" is therefore unnecessary and unwelcome. Everyone here knows PRs are welcome in an open source project. Some of us do send PRs. But whether someone sends PRs or not has no bearing on whether one can appreciate or criticize an idea as long as it is done in a substantive manner.
In fact, whether the parent comment author sends PRs or not is orthogonal to his complaint that we have too many build systems that is increasing the burden on users and maintainers. If you have something to say against this point, please do so on its own merit in a substantive manner without insinuations or ad-hominem attacks.
Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#45Why would I use this instead of Nix?
Do people use Nix for building and deploying project dependencies? Example project? Can you consume the result in a format that isn't all Nix-y symlinked?
Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#46This looks so similar to Bazel.. What's the advantage of using Please?
No runtime dependency on the JVM is huge.
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#48Meson and Ninja being adopted by gnome is game changing
Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cross-platform just means more than one platform. Nothing more. There's segments of developer market that don't need Windows support. Those targeting Linux/BSD, Mac desktops + Linux-based backends (i.e. cloud), multiple UNIXen (eg Linux + Solaris), embedded developed on Linux boxes, etc. I encourage Windows versions of cross-platform apps wherever the app could justify it due to all the developers and tooling on Wind…
they could be cross platform, but thats not really what people think.. when someone says cross platform i definitely expect windows support
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Re: Please – A Cross-Language Build System
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cross-platform just means more than one platform. Nothing more. There's segments of developer market that don't need Windows support. Those targeting Linux/BSD, Mac desktops + Linux-based backends (i.e. cloud), multiple UNIXen (eg Linux + Solaris), embedded developed on Linux boxes, etc. I encourage Windows versions of cross-platform apps wherever the app could justify it due to all the developers and tooling on Wind…
they could be cross platform, but thats not really what people think.. when someone says cross platform i definitely expect windows support
If someone says cross platform and it supports Linux, Mac, and BSDs, that is good enough for me. I have not done any development work on Windows in my entire life just like I have not done any development work on my Android phone.
Just offering a counterviewpoint.