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The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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Yeah, I'm sure that explains it, but it doesn't justify it.

Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Also, keep in mind those very top people are likely not at the top that long. As someone else pointed out, those could be people that sold their company.

> Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment?

Warren Buffett and Bill Gates say capital gains tax should be raised.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Also, keep in mind those very top people are likely not at the top that long. As someone else pointed out, those could be people that sold their company.

> Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Warren Buffett and Bill Gates say capital gains tax should be raised.

I'd say that too if I'd already made my billions and paid taxes on it.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm sure that explains it, but it doesn't justify it.

Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Also, keep in mind those very top people are likely not at the top that long. As someone else pointed out, those could be people that sold their company.

Unless you are a buying stock at a public offering, most "stock investing" is not investing into a company. The company doesn't benefit from the money you are "investing". If you bought $1 million shares of Google. Google doesn't get that money or use it for its operations.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Also, keep in mind those very top people are likely not at the top that long. As someone else pointed out, those could be people that sold their company.

Unless you are a buying stock at a public offering, most "stock investing" is not investing into a company. The company doesn't benefit from the money you are "investing". If you bought $1 million shares of Google. Google doesn't get that money or use it for its operations.

I'm referring to people who sold the business they owned. To me, that would be the most common way someone would end up with hundreds of millions of dollars of income in a single year.

If you owned stock in a public corporation, you'd be smarted to sell it over time to reduce the tax impact.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Also, keep in mind those very top people are likely not at the top that long. As someone else pointed out, those could be people that sold their company.

Unless you are a buying stock at a public offering, most "stock investing" is not investing into a company. The company doesn't benefit from the money you are "investing". If you bought $1 million shares of Google. Google doesn't get that money or use it for its operations.

that is simply not true. the more you buy stocks in a company, the more its market cap goes up. with higher market cap, it is easier to invest in new businesses, acquire other companies, hire better people through stock incentives, etc...

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you are a buying stock at a public offering, most "stock investing" is not investing into a company. The company doesn't benefit from the money you are "investing". If you bought $1 million shares of Google. Google doesn't get that money or use it for its operations.

that is simply not true. the more you buy stocks in a company, the more its market cap goes up. with higher market cap, it is easier to invest in new businesses, acquire other companies, hire better people through stock incentives, etc...

Market cap doesn't go up based on people buying shares. You are just trading ownership.

In theory, the market cap of the company is the current value of all future returns.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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> Do you see no value in tax incentives for investment? Warren Buffett and Bill Gates say capital gains tax should be raised.

I'd say that too if I'd already made my billions and paid taxes on it.

You are not a billionaire so no point in talking about hypotheticals.

For now actual billionaires don't agree with your statement.

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