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Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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They are using snap! an apparent derivative of Scratch. Seriously? The course sounds exactly like my six graders middle school course. Well the six graders did read Hacker News, so I guess that is what makes it a College Level EE course (eyes roll).

Scratch is a good introduction to programming concepts, regardless of age. How fortunate for your sixth grader; if such courses were common in earlier grades, a course like this could start with more challenging material.

This is not an EE class, it's an intro CS class, one that's not for those with prior knowledge who know they'll choose CS as a major. This kind of course can get new people interested, those who didn't think they'd like or could do CS. Even if they don't major in it, by taking this one course, they know more about an important part of what makes our world work.

CS50 at Harvard College [0] is also a very large, popular course that gets more people interested in CS as a major but is also useful to those who don't take another class. It also starts with Scratch though it switches to other languages very quickly and appears more challenging overall than this course.

[0] https://cs50.harvard.edu

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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Making HN comments assigned reading without also adding http://n-gate.com would sound quite irresponsible, if it were more than the one specific thread the article refers to.

I don't see why. n-gate sometimes makes reasonable points, but not usually. Even when it does make a good point it is rarely of any help to anyone who wants to learn about something concrete like algorithms.

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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You know there are people who don't like the HN hivemind, yes? "Hacker News is an echo chamber focusing on computer posturing and self-aggrandizement." and "Hacker News is the Slashdot for the smug classes". For the most part I think they are right, though obviously I am still here. I think that says something about me. Some of these people do things like do a redirect based on the referer. Try following one of the l…

It’s weird to call Hacker News a hive mind when all I see is people arguing with each other.

Have you ever watched US political shows? It seems like the inside-the-Beltway hivemind loves to argue with each other too.

Never known people who like to argue with each other for the sake of argument?

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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post #27
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Making HN comments assigned reading without also adding http://n-gate.com would sound quite irresponsible, if it were more than the one specific thread the article refers to.

I think even though n-gate provides another perspective on HN comments, some of it just a hateful rant that doesn't add any values itself. I remember chuckled reading n-gate, until I read a rant about Monica[1] on n-gate. Monica, i think, is an awesome app to keep in touch with your best friends and family. N-gate said it's just an app that makes you creepy because you stalk your family and your best friend. Can't fi…

>N-gate said it's just an app that makes you creepy because you stalk your family and your best friend.

It's not just n-gate, I think Monica is creepy as all hell. Keeping in touch with my best friends and family is texting, chatting, and calling each other once in a while. Putting them on a "CRM to manage" is like using LinkedIn for my personal life.

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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What's ironic about your statement is that there are many in the US that clamor for "free" university education for "everyone" -- citing how it's done in Europe. However, like everything, there are tradeoffs and unintended consequences that go beyond the simplistic thoughts of the politically and economically naïve. The University of California system, in my amateur opinion is extremely good. In fact, the state unive…

> Of course, there are exceptional European universities and there are terrible American universities, but overall, American university systems seem to be much better than the equivalent in "free" university countries. I personally think that the typical German university is better than the typical US one, but it is a very different system: In Germany you are very much on your own when you are studying. This teaches…

I agree 100%. The US university system treats the students as kindergarten.

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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post #42
post #31

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the owner is not visible in the WHOIS info

Actually, he is.

Then the whois info for a given domain must vary from region to region. Here is what I see:

$ whois n-gate.com Domain Name: N-GATE.COM Registry Domain ID: 3552897_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2017-12-30T01:40:58Z Creation Date: 1995-05-21T04:00:00Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-22T04:00:00Z Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Name Server: A.NS.SCIOPS.NET Name Server: D.NS.BUDDYNS.COM Name Server: E.NS.BUDDYNS.COM DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/ >>> Last update of whois database: 2018-02-12T21:55:31Z (+legalese...)

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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post #47
post #42

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Actually, he is.

Then the whois info for a given domain must vary from region to region. Here is what I see: $ whois n-gate.com Domain Name: N-GATE.COM Registry Domain ID: 3552897_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2017-12-30T01:40:58Z Creation Date: 1995-05-21T04:00:00Z Registry Expiry Date: 2018-05-22T04:00:00Z Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registra…

Interesting, I also see some additional details.

Re: Hacker News comments are assigned reading for UC Berkeley CS 10 course

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post #27

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I think even though n-gate provides another perspective on HN comments, some of it just a hateful rant that doesn't add any values itself. I remember chuckled reading n-gate, until I read a rant about Monica[1] on n-gate. Monica, i think, is an awesome app to keep in touch with your best friends and family. N-gate said it's just an app that makes you creepy because you stalk your family and your best friend. Can't fi…

>N-gate said it's just an app that makes you creepy because you stalk your family and your best friend. It's not just n-gate, I think Monica is creepy as all hell. Keeping in touch with my best friends and family is texting, chatting, and calling each other once in a while. Putting them on a "CRM to manage" is like using LinkedIn for my personal life.

I don't get this whole 'creepy' thing. I remember chat was creepy. I remember interacting with any stranger on the 'world wide web' was creepy. And then of course we had 'weird' (which usually just meant creepy without direct social implications), which applied to us nerds having a digital calendar and a pocket computer.

Almost everyone I know uses tech to augment their relationships, whether by keeping a gift list, putting birthdays on their calendar, checking friends' fb feeds, etc., and while I perfectly understand discussions about the (negative) consequences of all this, it really irks me how there's some kind of magical 'line', obviously right where the deemer deems it to be, beyond which something is creepy.

On a more personal note: for people like me, the help of tech, including something like Monica, can really have a positive effect on the relationships I have. Chat, gaming forums, and places like here offer me a degree of social interaction that has no real world equivalent. Gaming basically saved my life, back in my lonely teen years. And yet throughout my life I've often felt vaguely or outright ashamed about all this, because of people calling these things creepy for, what appears to me, no reason other than that it is different from what they know.

Let's not forget 'coffee shops' and 'books' were going to be the end of our society too!

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