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I have a lovely internal combustion sportscar that Dom Toretto or his wife (were they real) would enjoy driving. And if anyone can deliver the same performance for $50,000 (or less) I'll transition to electric. GM says 2020, Ford says (I think) 2023. And meanwhile, Teslas are nice, but I hate their interiors with the whole one.big.screen and they cost too much. All IMO of course.
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The Model 3 is about as fast as a BMW 340i, and probably similar to a V6 Mustang or Camaro. I drive a Prius and I'm rarely able to use its full power on a highway merge because I'm stuck behind slowpokes who think it's reasonable to merge at 40mph. If I owned a Mustang I'd be constantly frustrated at never being able to use it to its full potential.
Sure, that's on par with base $25K Camaros/Mustangs. It's not on par with the sort of Camaro/Mustang one can procure for ~$50k or the same price as a Model 3 that isn't barebones (and I just tried to config one on Tesla's web site and alas you can't so I can't give an exact number here). For ~$50K, ICE sports cars are sub 4 seconds. That said, it is on par with low-end sport coupes so I see some of the appeal. It's j…
Just give me something that's affordable, reliable, as light as possible and all-weather capable. It's fine to cut corners on interior materials and gadgets. Keep the electric windows, just give me the torque!
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I came very close to a Bolt for these reasons. My local power generator offered a $75 discount on the charger, plus free charging for the car on weekends. That's enormous: I could charge on weekends and drive 238 miles for free during the week. As a local commute or grocery getter, it's hard to beat free miles.
> free charging for the car on weekends Interesting. Made me think of how now in Australia we have so much solar installed that wholesale electric spot pricing can go $10k+/MWh negative during some parts of the day. Wondering if one day they'll be willing to pay consumer electric sinks... EV charging is perfect.
And if the car has a big battery and doesn't need to charge to full all of the time, you can use solar or wind predictions to choose when to charge.
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I came very close to a Bolt for these reasons. My local power generator offered a $75 discount on the charger, plus free charging for the car on weekends. That's enormous: I could charge on weekends and drive 238 miles for free during the week. As a local commute or grocery getter, it's hard to beat free miles.
> free charging for the car on weekends Interesting. Made me think of how now in Australia we have so much solar installed that wholesale electric spot pricing can go $10k+/MWh negative during some parts of the day. Wondering if one day they'll be willing to pay consumer electric sinks... EV charging is perfect.
Yes.
https://i.imgur.com/d3JBn9t.png
https://electrek.co/2017/02/03/tesla-controllable-charge-loa...
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Sure, that's on par with base $25K Camaros/Mustangs. It's not on par with the sort of Camaro/Mustang one can procure for ~$50k or the same price as a Model 3 that isn't barebones (and I just tried to config one on Tesla's web site and alas you can't so I can't give an exact number here). For ~$50K, ICE sports cars are sub 4 seconds. That said, it is on par with low-end sport coupes so I see some of the appeal. It's j…
I'm with you. I'm a car nut, and I'd love a bare-bones performance EV. The instant torque sounds amazing. Just give me something that's affordable, reliable, as light as possible and all-weather capable. It's fine to cut corners on interior materials and gadgets. Keep the electric windows, just give me the torque!
The only people I know who have an electric car own or have pre-ordered Teslas. They are all status symbols. I don’t know anyone who needs an electric car. Maybe the problem is just as much lack of demand as it is lack of big auto commitment?
I imagine you live in the USA where gas is insanely cheap? think about people paying > $6USD/gallon.
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I'm with you. I'm a car nut, and I'd love a bare-bones performance EV. The instant torque sounds amazing. Just give me something that's affordable, reliable, as light as possible and all-weather capable. It's fine to cut corners on interior materials and gadgets. Keep the electric windows, just give me the torque!
... that's what the Bolt and Model 3 are.
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... that's what the Bolt and Model 3 are.
Reliable might be an open question, and something 2-3 times the price of a Corolla or Civic is affordable to a very particular demographic.
I leased a Ford Focus Electric for 2 years before purchasing a used Tesla. After just a few months it became apparent that the Focus was just a compliance car afterthought. Instead of putting a little thought into battery placement, they simply threw it into the hatchback which reduced storage and left little weight in the front of a front wheel drive car. Instead of converting the engine compartment into a frunk, th…
1) Range is 110mi (winter: 80, summer: 130)
2) Acceleration is improved (I smoked a Porche Boxster between 2 very long lights).
3) Sync3 is better, and they support Android Auto/ Apple Carplay.
4) DC Fast charging support = 30m recharge ( we have one at my office) to about 80% from near-zero.
Some things are unchanged / still suck: traction due to it not being 4wd - is the same. Battery position is the same (really unfortunate since it kneecaps the benefit of having a hatchback. The radio always comes on if I disconnect CarPlay - I wish I could disable it from every getting AM/FM as I find it mostly ads and useless.
That said, I still really enjoy the car. It's more fun than my old Prius, still fits 5 (3 kids in back) and I never visit a gas station. Of course, I'm on the list for a Model 3.
[1] http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2018/02/u-s-auto-sales-brand-ra...
