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Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Funny, but Privacy Badger blocked 10 trackers in this article

My ghostery blocked 24

ublock didn't block anything. Then I realised that this site allows auto-playing videos so at some point in the past I seem to have disabled JavaScript on this site.

I wish it was easier to control JavaScript usage as the visitor. It's either very complex or just 'turn it all off and go somewhere else if nothing works'.

Perhaps the second option is the 'correct' response though.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. If they see activity from one IP to say search, then activity from the same IP to visit the top result of that search, they don’t need a cookie to track you. Anyone who shares an IP has seen ads actually targeting another member of their household...

Usually that's not a reliable way to identify a unique user. Given the prevalence of NAT, re-using IPs by ISPs with DHCP, and a host of other reasons. (That's not to say there aren't ways to fingerprint users across devices and browsers.)

A service ISPs should offer as standard is regularly randomising your outbound IP from their pool for all but a whitelist you specify. So you can have a static IP for say you work firewall, but are harder to track otherwise

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

#45

Honest question. I'm unsure what the danger is in letting these companies acquire data on us. We get a lot of benefit from using their products for free. Why should I care about giving my data to them as a cost of admission?

Watch Minority Report, then replace "psychics" with "data-mining"

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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>"Google and Facebook's hidden trackers across the Internet,..."

Are these "hidden trackers" mentioned in the article just the normal beacons or are they referring to something new?

Are these relevant if a person is not logged into neither FB or Google or if someone has uBlock Origin/Privacy Badger installed?

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. Well, that's your choice, isn't it? > That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience. Non-techies can just go the good ol' way and pay for an ad-free, tracking-free email service, mapping service, storage service, etc.

I’m not a google fan, but can you name one free service that is par? I think many people would en pay if there was an alternative

I switched to FastMail about 6 months ago, and I like it. I actually like FastMail’s webapp more than Gmail’s. There aren’t any features from Gmail that I miss, and FastMail offers a very easy option to migrate your emails from Gmail.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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A common behavior I witness, is people using ad/tracker blockers such as ublock origin and/or umatrix and yet continue to consult websites that makes use of those trackers. Worse, they link those sites to other people that might not make use of those blockers. They don't think much of it, but ain't that evil?

Most of the times they don't even notice anymore that trackers were blocked on the page they consult.

Just look at links posted here on HN, most are of hostile websites.

I'd love to see a browser extension more radical: if it detects such third party scripts or cookies it simply stop loading the page and display a message explaining why instead.

Someone sends you a link to an article on cnn.com? Answer with this message telling why you won't consult it.

Going further: the extension attempts to extract the content, strip it of anything useless (some js libs works OK for such tasks), and share this version with others using this extension.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Honest question. I'm unsure what the danger is in letting these companies acquire data on us. We get a lot of benefit from using their products for free. Why should I care about giving my data to them as a cost of admission?

The aggregation of data is extensive and the ubiquity of the net means the data covers nearly every aspect of your life. Such information can be misused in many ways. Unfortunately, those misuses don't really become clear until the data set is already built, so there is no way to undo it. Even if Facebook or Google don't exploit the data themselves, the data could be stolen by criminals or seized by the government.

Are there personal things in your past you don't want your insurance company to know about? How about your employer? Or the IRS? Even your spouse? What if someone showed up one day and threatened to your your secrets unless you pay up?

Is that worth the price free access to your high-school friends' duckface selfies?

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