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Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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after being an iPhone user for 6 years and recently switching to android (first a pixel, then one plus) I can say with confidence Google's hardware approach sucks. Android can do a lot more than iOS but it does most of the simple things in a user unfriendly way

I hate most of the redesign of going all white. Especially in Settings sometimes it is not clear what is a button and what is just text.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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post #7

after being an iPhone user for 6 years and recently switching to android (first a pixel, then one plus) I can say with confidence Google's hardware approach sucks. Android can do a lot more than iOS but it does most of the simple things in a user unfriendly way

Their software also sucks compared to the “just-works” ios and its integration.

You mean it sucks because one can customize it? I remember when I got the iPhone 3gs back then and was surprised you couldn't set a background picture.

Oh and these days iOS is still very locked down. So it just works because you are not allowed to do much. (Like having an app like Tasker for example, or choosing if your USB port on your phone should be used for storage, charging only, or even charging other devices).

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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post #7

after being an iPhone user for 6 years and recently switching to android (first a pixel, then one plus) I can say with confidence Google's hardware approach sucks. Android can do a lot more than iOS but it does most of the simple things in a user unfriendly way

I hate most of the redesign of going all white. Especially in Settings sometimes it is not clear what is a button and what is just text.

I completely agree, but It wouldn't be a major Android update without the changing of the way settings looks.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Though Apple is lagging behind in innovative features in recent times, I think they are at a higher level because of the excellent hardware that complements their software and vice versa. I think Google feels let down by the other mobile manufacturer's hardware and hence wants to bet big on improving its in house hardware expertise.

Yeah, the battery story shows how excellent their hardware is.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Yep. Back when they were much more simple (like gingerbread?) I felt they hit the usability peak. My Pixel 2XL has a lot more features. It's certainly faster and better in almost every way, but it has so many trivial user experience bugs that it blows my mind that QA isn't fired.

If you could still use your gingerbread phone, you might be amazed how far it's come. I found an old Galaxy phone with 2.3 on it, and it was incredible how differently I remembered it. It was slow and clunky, and ugly by today's standard.

I would be amazed if I thought differently. I still adore my htc dream.

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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Some people value headphone jacks, micro-SD expansion, dual-SIM support or other features that dont exist in the latest Pixels. These are all features that modern iPhones don't have either, so its a little hypocritical to call out Google if that is whats meant by the "sucks" part.

Those don't exist in the iPhone either, so I'm not sure what you're arguing for. There's a reason most flagships don't have those anymore.

+1 those few reasons mostly being water resistance (headphone jack) and compactness (everything)

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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>Google's hardware approach sucks What is wrong with the Pixel hardware? (Have never owned one and have only heard good things)

Some people value headphone jacks, micro-SD expansion, dual-SIM support or other features that dont exist in the latest Pixels. These are all features that modern iPhones don't have either, so its a little hypocritical to call out Google if that is whats meant by the "sucks" part.

Only 2000 people are moving from HTC to Google, according to the article. HTC will then leave the phone market. I expect Google to continue following Apple's lead and remove more features. They also have to try to stop their IP from leaking out, and go through some culture shock working in Taiwan.

This is an opportunity for investors to hire the other HTC staff who refuse to join Google for ideological reasons (open designs, repairability) or who just didn't get hired. There's probably a few other people from iFixit, WebOS, Fairphone hanging around here.

YC Summer 2018 is open. I'm in Taiwan. Who wants to make a business plan?

Re: Google closes its $1.1B deal with HTC Corp

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people value headphone jacks, micro-SD expansion, dual-SIM support or other features that dont exist in the latest Pixels. These are all features that modern iPhones don't have either, so its a little hypocritical to call out Google if that is whats meant by the "sucks" part.

Those don't exist in the iPhone either, so I'm not sure what you're arguing for. There's a reason most flagships don't have those anymore.

I haven't heard a single good reason beyond the manufacturers' ambitions.
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