Orcas can imitate human speech, research reveals

Post by tgarv » Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:01 PM UTC

exclusiv wrote: post #32

dorchadas wrote: post #30

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The difference for me is that horses can be (and are) domesticated and raised for their meat. Nor are they necessarily endangered. If you find horsemeat barbaric, what about beef or chicken or pork? What about deer?

Horses are huge animals and often have to be put down for injuries to their legs. It's a shame to let meat go to waste. I don't know about killing horses in their prime though if that's what they do.

Post by kleer001 » Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:02 PM UTC

phreeza wrote: post #40

mrkstu wrote: post #23

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Agreed. I chimed in on an earlier article supporting eating meat- but higher mammals are a special case. Dolphins/Whales should be in the same category as Elephants and Apes. They are beings with complex social structures and individual personalities. They are not prey or husbandry animals, but apex animals. David Brin's Uplift novels make this point very well- these are our fellow travelers on the road to sentience.…

Why are elephants higher on the hierarchy than eg pigs?

Post by dogecoinbase » Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:06 PM UTC

wizardforhire wrote: post #29

(Devils advocate here disclaimer) but imagine you're an isolated island with no large mammal population and pick a date long ago. Food is scarce and the ocean is large and these huge things are ripe but difficult for the taking. One is enough to feed a village for the better part of year... And when you eat it, it tastes like steak! A food you've never even contemplated existing! Add to that a rich cultural tradition…

Post by kingkawn » Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:11 PM UTC

ikeyany wrote: post #21

sethbannon wrote: post #17

Listening to these remarkable recordings, I can't help but think that as time goes on, more and more of the artificial mental barriers we've built between us and non-human animals will fall. I hope with more research humanity stops seeing non-human animals as resources to be exploited but rather as sentient beings to be respected.

Those barriers are certainly falling. The campaign to end the live boiling of lobsters and crabs [1] is underway due to our findings that crustaceans can feel pain. [1] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42873644

Post by hackbinary » Wed, Jan 31, 2018, 7:19 PM UTC

exclusiv wrote: post #32

dorchadas wrote: post #30

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The difference for me is that horses can be (and are) domesticated and raised for their meat. Nor are they necessarily endangered. If you find horsemeat barbaric, what about beef or chicken or pork? What about deer?

Horses are huge animals and often have to be put down for injuries to their legs. It's a shame to let meat go to waste. I don't know about killing horses in their prime though if that's what they do.