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Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by jsgo »

rsync wrote: post #39
jedberg wrote: post #18

I used to be super gung-ho about Tesla. I've preordered the X and the 3. Never pulled the trigger on the X, and probably gonna give back my 3 reservation too. I love the way the car drives. The driver experience is amazing, with the way it just goes where you want and autopilot just driving it on the freeway for me. If it was just me, I would get one. But the interiors are awful. They let me test drive an X for a day…

"But the interiors are awful." This cannot be overstated. The interiors are indeed awful. The interior of a maxed out Model S approaches the fit, finish, materials and features of the low end germans (A4, 3Series, Cclass) from below . In fact, while I find it hard to believe, it appears that many Model S drivers are driving their very first expensive car. Forum comments/postings make it very clear that they are not c…

I don't find that hard to believe, personally. I buy Hondas (well, Honda as mine has run for quite a while and I've been happy with it). The only expensive car I would currently consider would be a Model S if I felt that I could afford it without causing any issues. I have zero interest in another similarly priced car. Now, if Honda or others were to introduce electric cars with substantial promise in reliability, driving distance, look? I may even strike Tesla from the list of automobiles I would have interest in.

So there are probably quite a few people who moved up in income at around the time the Model S became a highly rated car and that is what you're seeing.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by lunaru »

davesque wrote: post #21

So is this where the founders all get to come in and contemplate, compare, and contrast their expensive luxury toys? And then move on to another thread on HN and wax philosophical about economic inequality?

HN is now (fortunately? unfortunately?) large enough that multiple groups of people with different consumer identities coexist under the same forum. I'd guess that startup founders are a minority by user count.

As a founder of a startup, I don't own a Tesla (nor do I wax philosophical about economic inequality often), but there are plenty of articles and comment threads that I find valuable. It's also healthy to keep abreast of a broad understanding of what people find interesting. It just so happens that Teslas are at an intersection of featureset and price that interests a lot of people here and I find that valuable for HN content.

Also, a model 3 is something like $40k-50k (realistically) which is probably above the range for a ramen profitable founder but certain well within range of most of the middle class to upper-middle class such that I wouldn't consider it an expensive luxury toy.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by ClassyJacket »

pixelpp wrote: post #3

Hopefully the interior of this model does not look like s* too.

I can't comment on the physical comfort or functionality of the Model 3 since I haven't sat in one or driven it, but visually I think it looks amazing inside. I love the clean, minimalist look. It really does "look like a spaceship". I love how wide open and clear it is. It looks modern. I'm a nerd, I want to feel like I'm in the future, and the Model 3 does that.

I'd prefer that interior to the one in the S\X, so in fact the Y sounds like the perfect car for me.

However, this does hinge on having good steering wheel controls for things like climate control and audio, and large touch targets on the screen for anything not on the wheel - messing with a fiddly touchscreen while driving is no good.

I have heard that there is a lack of storage space inside the S\X, and that the overall build quality of some parts could be improved - we'll see how that goes with the 3 and future S\Xs.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by secabeen »

jedberg wrote: post #31
singingboyo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the older Odysseys were really damn ugly. Newer ones are slightly better, but not amazing. Of course, interior wins over exterior every time, but I do admit to some confusion as to why anyone bought the old ones.

I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience. I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)

Right, and Teslas are the best cars on the market today for auto-steer and adaptive cruise control, which contributes significantly to driving experience. As for family comfort, the Tesla seats are pretty good, and I don't really want any other comfort features than a good seat or two, and a cup-holder. Most everything else I want for family comfort/entertainment is delivered better via tablet or phone.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by secabeen »

youngtaff wrote: post #24
spectrum1234 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're okay with ugly exterior though?

With Tesla's there's something weird about the line where the hood meets the windshield that you don't see in other sports cars

That may be the deep cut under there that the wiper lie in. It's for maximum aerodynamics.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by susanhi »

davesque wrote: post #21

So is this where the founders all get to come in and contemplate, compare, and contrast their expensive luxury toys? And then move on to another thread on HN and wax philosophical about economic inequality?

I took delivery of the Model 3 a couple weeks ago. IMO it’s going to be a phenomenal car even with just the base model (ie no autopilot, no leather, no larger battery.) I suggest test driving when able to see what I’m talking about. The instant torque, the balance and stability of the car. It’s just a fun driving experience. Coupled with the safety of the car and the integrated infotainment/controls in the large screen, there’s no car can compare.

So the base model really is 35k. If you’re in California, you get 2500 tax credit + 7500 federal. That’s 25k + tax. Sure it’s not something everyone can afford but definitely not in the expensive luxury toy range. IMO it’s more in the “deal of a lifetime” category than the “expensive luxury toy” category.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by twic »

paulcole wrote: post #42

It's an interesting strategy for sure. Instead of solving the problems facing the current lineup just add another car and a whole new set of problems.

Well, Tesla's whole deal is applying the software startup mindset to manufacturing, right?
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