Was that the entirety of the apartment in photos, minus the bathroom? Even by New York standards, that's pretty tiny.
Have you been in a Japanese hotel room? It’s a bed, plus about a few square feet of access pathway into the bed.
Have _you_?
I’ve stayed in both ‘international’ hotels that cater to foreigners and in business hotels which explicitly discourage foreigners by having literally everything in Japanese and they’ve all had fairly standard sized rooms for a hotel.
Recommend also reading this beautiful and very sad NYT article from a couple of months ago. "A Generation in Japan Faces a Lonely Death" https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/world/asia/japan-lonely-d... Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15822064
Glad you posted this. I found the article from November to be quite moving. As someone who knows precious little about Japanese culture, it surprises me that someone would die alone - and then sit alone for a long time before discovery. I had always heard Japan was a very collectivist society. Does that play into this?
My opinion as a Westerner who has spent a lot of time in Japan: as in any crowded place, a key coping skill is the ability to ignore people who are in close proximity to you. When you’re riding on a train with people crammed up against every square inch of your body, you kind of zone out, avoid eye contact, and definitely don’t strike up a conversation. I get the strong sense that people who are alone can go though life with very few meaningful interactions, even with neighbors who live only a few centimeters away (note that the apartment in the story is 200 square feet, I’d bet that a lot of American homes have bathrooms bigger than that).
Being collectivist means not taking up unnecessary psychic space in the lives of others.
Off Topic: This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Should be the other way around. Parents watched us every hour when growing up, as adults we should be the ones checking on them constantly. In the West I rarely hear people who talk about their parents with great love and care. Instead I see parents praising their children all day long. These kids grow up feeling like a prize and they do not develop en…
It doesn't really matter if mom initiates the email exchange or child does. The important detail is daily communication from the elderly parent confirming they are alive and functional. If child sends email, the elderly parent still needs to reply or you have no mechanism to check if they are okay.
The point was not about the mechanism, but caring.
Have you been in a Japanese hotel room? It’s a bed, plus about a few square feet of access pathway into the bed.
Have _you_? I’ve stayed in both ‘international’ hotels that cater to foreigners and in business hotels which explicitly discourage foreigners by having literally everything in Japanese and they’ve all had fairly standard sized rooms for a hotel.
To the parent's point, the one's in your description seem to all to fall on the expensive side, either for rich-ish foreigners or rich-ish Japanese.
> she didn't want to become cat food should she died suddenly. I had a great-great aunt who lived alone and hoarded cats and dogs (and many other non-living things). She was partially eaten when they finally found her. My grandparents eventually moved in to that property, and now my parents have it as a second property. Every time I visit, I still get a little shudder when I think about what it must have been like to…
I’ve heard similar stories and seen it mentioned on cop show. It must be pretty common. What about a device like the emergency buttons for elderly but it checks vitals? It could update loved ones daily. I bet you could use an Apple Watch.
I really hope I don’t have to worry about it for another 10-20 years
This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Sometimes she just says hey , but most other times she includes other info about her life or asks me questions. Her reasoning was that because she had a cat (at the time), she didn't want to become cat food should she died suddenly.
Off Topic: This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Should be the other way around. Parents watched us every hour when growing up, as adults we should be the ones checking on them constantly. In the West I rarely hear people who talk about their parents with great love and care. Instead I see parents praising their children all day long. These kids grow up feeling like a prize and they do not develop en…
Though my opinion may be extreme, I only think of family as a group of people/dear friends who I've grown up around, and parents as caretakers. Yes, I do own them for taking care of me (which I know was a pain), but they are also the ones who chose to do so, without my consent. Should I be grateful to people who force their values on me? I think not. At least, not so much as for them to completely rely on me when they're unfit for society.
This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Sometimes she just says hey , but most other times she includes other info about her life or asks me questions. Her reasoning was that because she had a cat (at the time), she didn't want to become cat food should she died suddenly.
Off Topic: This is why my mother sends me an email every morning. Should be the other way around. Parents watched us every hour when growing up, as adults we should be the ones checking on them constantly. In the West I rarely hear people who talk about their parents with great love and care. Instead I see parents praising their children all day long. These kids grow up feeling like a prize and they do not develop en…
in the long run people take care of their parents and you will not hear of older people being alone let alone die alone.
You are assuming these people have children at all - that's becoming less true every year.
Also, you should consider that people sometimes prefer to be alone. My grandmother now lives with my mother, but that was only after she fell at home at 85 years old, because before she preferred to live by herself. Had she died in that fall, she would have died alone too, but not because her children didn't want to take care of her.
I hope anyone reading this realizes that there will be a time in life when you should call your mother and / or call your father, once a week at least.
I hope anyone reading this realizes that there will be a time in life when you should call your mother and / or call your father, once a week at least.
And not only parents either. I call my grandparents once a week, mainly because their weeks are filled with trips to the store or doctors appointments. But I've grown a lot closer to them and have learned a lot from their experiences and stories.
My grandfather loves talking about cars and he enjoys his weekly phone call. He can't wait to tell me all about new technologies he reads about. He tells me how his car is doing and asks how my car handles. He has 5 grandchildren and I believe that I am the only one who calls every week.